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Old 02-27-2013, 02:36 PM   #91
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down in Central America it seems all of the Japanese companies make little 4 cyl diesel trucks that get from 30 mpg for the turbo to over 50 for the ones that can't get out of their own way.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:14 PM   #92
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Is there a real reason why we don't have those little diesels in the us? I'd buy one it a heartbeat.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:30 PM   #93
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Is there a real reason why we don't have those little diesels in the us? I'd buy one it a heartbeat.
I have never REALLY heard a good one. Mostly just conspiracy type stuff.....
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:57 PM   #94
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The real advantage of the diesel over all other options:



My truck, two buddies with their bikes and a buddies trailer heading out to Death Valley for several days of fun and merriment.

1500 lbs of crap in the bed, 10,000 lbs of trailer. Motored up and down the hills at 70+
10k of trailer makes for a dull read. It should have read 6500 lbs of trailer and 3500 lbs of hookers and beer..
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:31 PM   #95
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10k of trailer makes for a dull read. It should have read 6500 lbs of trailer and 3500 lbs of hookers and blow..
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:15 AM   #96
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Is there a real reason why we don't have those little diesels in the us? I'd buy one it a heartbeat.
look what type of time VW had trying to sell there early Rabbit and Golfs. I do think that is the reason we don't have them.




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Old 02-28-2013, 10:02 AM   #97
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Yeah but now tdi's are very popular, it seems the us market is warming up to diesel.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:12 AM   #98
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My truck, two buddies with their bikes and a buddies trailer heading out to Death Valley for several days of fun and merriment.
One of your buddies better be a midget to fit in the back seat of that thing.

I have the exact same truck.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:46 PM   #99
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10k of trailer makes for a dull read. It should have read 6500 lbs of trailer and 3500 lbs of hookers and beer..
Funny! I need to hang with you jokers as long as the hookers don't exceed 120 lbs. each. If we are talking about 300 lb. hookers and minimal quantities of beer then ai pass ;)


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Old 02-28-2013, 02:17 PM   #100
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Is there a real reason why we don't have those little diesels in the us? I'd buy one it a heartbeat.
Here's the reason as I understand it. Prior to '06 the US had about zero emissions regs on diesels. So the soot spewing and good mileage was plentiful. However, once the tighter regs from EPA kicked in post '06 we went from 0 regs (for all practical purposes) to the most stringent in the world. This forced practically every auto maker out initially and made the diesel PU market get ridiculous EGR systems that radically overcomplicated a simple engine, killed the good mileage, and led to all sorts of reliability issues (see Ford 6.0 pre EGR in school buses vs. post EGR in PU - what a train wreck).

Anyway - now that high gas costs have affected the love for the big V8s and the demand for small diesels might actually exist - nothing out there can be readily dropped in and meet the regs. I don't know if Europe has the same regs as we do now - and I wonder about that since Ford is bringing in the 5-cyl diesel in the new transit from Europe and Dodge is bringing in the VM Motori in their new van...so take all this with a grain of salt (or two)
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:52 PM   #101
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Diesel Dilemmas

Just spotted this today. Informative.

http://spectator.org/archives/2013/0...esel-dilemmas/
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:46 PM   #102
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Is there a real reason why we don't have those little diesels in the us? I'd buy one it a heartbeat.
Because the market demands that you can pull a 15000lb 5th wheel up a 20% grade at 80mph?
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:29 PM   #103
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Because the media says the market demands that you can pull a 15000lb 5th wheel up a 20% grade at 80mph?
FIFY...

I'd be happy with a new version of a 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 4WD wagon, mechaniclally shift on the fly transfer case, with a 1.5L turbo diesel engine that gets 50 - 60mpg. Should be easy with today's tech.

Maybe someday the rumors about Subaru will finally come true...
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:55 PM   #104
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FIFY...

I'd be happy with a new version of a 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 4WD wagon, mechaniclally shift on the fly transfer case, with a 1.5L turbo diesel engine that gets 50 - 60mpg. Should be easy with today's tech.

Maybe someday the rumors about Subaru will finally come true...
Great little cars. The little gas motor got great mileage--we had one we inherited from my grandfather that ran well for over 300000km despite a distinct lack of maintenance. That extra low gear and the light weight made it surprisingly capable.
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:00 PM   #105
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The Isuzu diesel troopers were supposed to be the cats meow, go almost anywhere and 4X and diesel.
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