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Old 02-28-2013, 08:08 AM   #16
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I agree there seems to be lots of information until you look closely. I'd stay away from the 140 as it needs an oil cooler and the one that comes with it is problematic so you need to get some good hydraulic lines made. And I have heard of cranks breaking as well as kickstarts on those.

I'd get the 125 full kit to start with and just deal with the problems as they crop up. I had to get a 10mm drill to mount the motor and now find the DR's braket will be easier than drilling new bottom mount holes (unfortunately they are temporarily unavailable!) . Next I will look at the footpeg mounts. No one seems to know what new ones will work, they just cut and weld or something but that's not an option for me...
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:16 AM   #17
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I didn't document the 140 install but there is a lot of info on

If you are good at do it yourself projects and have access to a 4" angle grinder and welder then there isn't a lot of expense beyond the engine. Air filter, pit bike exhaust, quality oil cooler lines, 12V bulbs, clutch cable and lever if your bikes doesn't have a left side lever. Pit bike parts on eBay are cheap.

The Lifan 140 is a great engine but it does have some quirks. Because of the long stroke it tends to kick back if you don't start it properly. Requires 91 octane fuel unless you are riding at over 5000'. Needs the oil cooler. But the tractor like low RPM torque for off road riding is fantastic. The stories about broken cranks on the 140 are from racing use and over reving, it's a 8000 RPM engine not a 10,000 RPM engine. For on road I would go with the 125 that would probably give you about the same top speed.

Originally Posted by Fleksta View Post
Do you happen to have a thread somewhere documenting the swap? I've been considering putting the 140 in my own bike but the list of additional "suggested" parts on the DrATV site total almost $400 on top of the motor itself.

For as common a swap as it appears to be, I can't seem to locate a good step-by-step for the process.
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:05 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by yooperbikemike View Post
CT70 with a CB175 motor

now that is a custom bike

well done
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:31 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by brian72 View Post
I just saw the Honda CT110 thread. What an awesome machine!

Is there anything similar being produced and sold in the U.S. today?

100-300 cc dirt oriented maybe high pipe as well? Any brand.
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Doesn't come dirt oriented stock but I've seen them fitted with knobbies. The cool thing about these is that the aftermarket has a lot of performance parts available, all the way up to 180+cc 4 valve motors with 25+ hp capable of over 75mph. Granted the extreme is not a motor built for longevity but there is an area of compromise in there where you can have a bike that can easily keep up to fast traffic and still get 75+ mpg. If you don't want to start with an original CT, this is the closest thing I've seen as far as design goes.

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Old 06-23-2013, 06:13 AM   #20
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BMS is making CT110 clones, at $1300-1700 I'm tempted to get one:

BMS bi-metro xlt 110

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Old 06-23-2013, 09:27 PM   #21
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There are 2 completely different bikes here. The Trail 90, shown in post #9 is big enough to carry a full sized adult, despite it's small displacement. I have known this model all my life as the trail 90, or the CT90. There is also a CT70 and CT110 that differ only in displacement. These bikes were based on the original Honda Cub frame.

The blue bike in post #11 is a whole different thing. It is much smaller, and is sized right for kids. I have always known those as the Honda Mini Trail. They have folding handlebars which make them easier to haul and store. I don't know what Honda's official designation was for them, but I don't think they are both CT models. You can buy Chinese copies of the Mini Trail, and the Cub. But I have never seen a Chinese copy of the Trail 70/90/110. If there was one I would probably buy it.

This is a brand new CT110. Honda still makes this bike, still mostly in it's original form, for most of the world's motorcycle markets, excepting of course, the U.S.

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Old 06-24-2013, 12:39 AM   #22
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Hey, what about this one?

And this one is the same but less money:
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:47 AM   #23
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Hey, what about this one?

And this one is the same but less money:

For that much money you can get a decent used Yamaha TW200.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:22 AM   #24
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Hugemoth, have you ever weighed yours post-mods?
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Old 06-24-2013, 05:44 PM   #25
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The official designation of the mini Trail is the CT70. Very different from the CT90 and CT110. The C70 (passport) has the same frame as the CT90 and. CT110.
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