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Old 02-24-2013, 03:35 PM   #1
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Cool2 Campground Coffee "boil off"

A riding bud and I met at a campground this morning to review one another's camp coffee rig. Mine is a Jetboil Java. I paid $100 Simolians plus the fuel canister. While the "press" sells separately for $15.00 If you buy the "Java" version they'll throw it in for free. My set up can have 2 cups of coffee ready for consumption in about 3 minutes start to finish. It is good coffee.

My cohort Has a potted meat tin with holes drilled near the top rim. It stands about an inch and a half tall. Fuel is Heet ( a gas line anti freeze). He uses a small paint can lid for a cooking surface insulator/primer. Accessories include a home made wind screen to prevent the flame being extinguished by the wind. He also purchased a Stanley stainless steel kettle to boil the water in. For making coffee with the just boil water he uses an Aero Press. the Aero Press is two tubes that fit one inside the other with a rubber gasket to seal the water in. It uses paper filters and makes an excellent cup of java.

Summary and results. Boiling water is boiling water regardless of how much it costs to get the task completed. Both methods got the job done in a reasonable amount of time although the Jet boil gets it done in record time. It will boil water for a Mountain House Breakfast Skillet Pro Pack, start anew with water for 2 cups of coffee and be done before the home made alcohol stove has the coffee water ready. BUT: How big a hurry are you in? The packed size is similar although utilizing a Maxpedition 5X12 water bottle holder I have enough room for the complete Jetboil Java, my camp cup, ground coffee, cooking/food prep/eating utensils, and condiments in slightly less room than the McGyver cooking system. Personally I like my system better because it's self contained, quick and slick. For cost, ease of operation, maintenace and most importantly quality of thee coffee I'll have to go with Jeff's McGyver set up. Bottom line with all things considered I'll have to call it a draw.
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Old 02-24-2013, 03:46 PM   #2
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Cool test. I'm also an avid backpacker and am into ultralight packing.
Anywho, I have multiple stoves and pots. I have settled on using my home made beer can stove, with a small pot for the top and a windscreen. Crazy light, and none of those emtpy fuel cans to contend with. Also, no moving parts and nothing to break in the field. And, it cost me the price of a beer, basically. I also used an aluminum insert for strength.

I have also settled on using the Starbucks instant coffee. It's good stuff, not like other instants. They come in little tiny packs, one per use. So, I boil water for breakfast, pour some in my coffee cup and the rest in a bag of mountain house dehydrated food.

To each their own, but the small size and extremely lightweight of my beer can stove and yellow heet fuel works for me on foot and ADV. I sold my Jetboil last year but still have various other brands and titanium pots.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:24 PM   #3
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I use an Aero Press at work when I'm home. Here on extended travel I use it t the hotel and carry my triple shot Americano to work to enjoy there.
Usually Peet's Major Dickison Blend, but right now I'm working my way through two pounds of Costo by Starbucks. IT gets the job done.
Oh, and I've been using the same filter disk in my press since January. I scratched a hole in the first one.

When I camp I carry a Malita filter and use that. LOts less clean up than the Press, but not as good. But, then I am camping so am able to endure some hardship.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:59 PM   #4
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Real ground coffee in a vac flask/thermos with boiling water. It's not ready for a while as the grains settle but is really good coffee that can be drunk at a few stops over the next few hours.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:09 AM   #5
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This thread could provoke more opinions than an oil thread.

For me the primary obstacles to good camp coffee have always been a) grinding the beans right before brewing, and b) keeping 1/2 & 1/2 cold. Boiling water is easy. Paper filter, screen, or cloth filter all about the same.

I've looked for years for a battery-powered or hand cranked grinder. REI has a hand-cranked one that is huge and bulky and heavy. No thanks. Someone made a small battery-powered one a decade ago, (I wanna say the Boy Scouts sold it) but haven't found any for sale today. As for 1/2 & 1/2, powdered creamer doesn't cut it. Lil preserved creams are a last resort.

More often than not I'll grab a canned double shot at the gas station the night before, just to save space and get my caffeine fix in the morning.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:49 AM   #6
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Cool ideas. If I have room, and a little time I make cowboy coffee. It.s good, and easy. So some ground coffee, I prefer a double cracked, slightly burnt bean. I can effectively grind it with the blade of my knife and a flat stone. Takes a few minutes, but then I'm out to enjoy, so not in a hury. then into a pot, enough water to just a little more than cover it. Some egg shells to settle it and reduce acid is nice if you have them. Boil it, but not too much. Poor cold water over over it, let it get hot, but don't reboil it, and poor off the top.
If I'm in a hury, the the starbucks instant stuff works. It's fairly tasty if you don't make it too strong, but way too much cafiene, so I can't drink it all morning like I want to.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:02 PM   #7
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Aeropress for me. I buy my coffee as beans and grind it at the point of sale (supermarket or at starbucks). I prefer to grind immediately prior to drinking like I do at home but having a cup in the great outdoors more than makes up for grinding a few days prior to drinking. Most supermarkets of any size have some decent varieties now.

If you need Half and Half (I do), go with the MiniMoos either from BJ's, Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart or better yet lifted from the table at a diner etc... Get the ones that require no refrigeration and you're all set.

One word of advice on the MiniMoos... Do NOT buy them at sea level if you are going to be riding at altitude. Trust me on this one.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:08 PM   #8
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Coleman single burner, multi fuel stove. Army canteen cup. Folgers coffee singles. Roll up a Drum and think about the days ride or enjoy some good map reading time.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:55 PM   #9
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Metal beer bottle made into an alcohol stove that I bought from one of the members here. Heet for fuel that you'll find anywhere. I'ts hammer simple and has served me well for two Summers of off road trips and will get packed up for this years trip(s).

Does my cooking and coffee......love it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:09 PM   #10
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Have you guys tried the starbucks VIA instant coffee? holy crap what a good cup of coffee with just a little tiny packet, not unlike the folgers or taster's (last) choice singles.

instant coffee has come a very long way, and I can have a weeks' worth of morning coffee take up less space in luggage than a handkerchief. plus, no coffee making apparatus to bring - just a stove which you have anyway, a vessel to boil water with, which you have anyway, and a cup, again, you probably have one.

YMMV, but try it before you knock it
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:25 AM   #11
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Have you guys tried the starbucks VIA instant coffee? holy crap what a good cup of coffee with just a little tiny packet, not unlike the folgers or taster's (last) choice singles.

instant coffee has come a very long way, and I can have a weeks' worth of morning coffee take up less space in luggage than a handkerchief. plus, no coffee making apparatus to bring - just a stove which you have anyway, a vessel to boil water with, which you have anyway, and a cup, again, you probably have one.

YMMV, but try it before you knock it
This is the second post I've read where $tarBuck$ instant is mentioned. I will give it a try, thanks. I am kind of a coffee snob, but when moto camping, I rough it with the Folgers. Not my favorite cup 'o' joe, but they get you by.
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:54 AM   #12
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Great post guys.

I like the concept of Jetboil, or "Jetbroil" as my chum calls it.

I think if a couple riders are touring together, the more stove-like contraptions are great, where as riders can divide the responsibility of toting the camping/cooking gear. One guy can carry this, the other carries "that".

I also can appreciate the alcohol or Heet burning "can" stoves, for those times where a guy is riding or touring alone and space is a concern. I think stove selection can be a case by case basis here, like long guns and hunting, different tools for different days.

The feller that sells the can type stoves on this site is totally over the top. For what he gets, just buy a couple of his, he has it down, they are perfection, metal art - that be for sure.

Great gift idea for that brother in law that you secretly hope gets eaten by a grizzly bear, so you want to encourage him to cook, right ?

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Old 02-27-2013, 05:20 AM   #13
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Sheesh. Some of you guys oughta just travel with your own barista.

Link to the minimalist method here.

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Old 02-28-2013, 05:34 PM   #14
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I have a jetboil with the coffee press too. I also take the additional pot stand attachment that allows any cooking pot to be used for when I need to do more than boil water on longer trips.

On short trips I take a Handpresso.
This nifty gadget can produce a pretty decent espresso in the field. Though it does mean grinding espresso coffee at home before a trip, and it invariably goes stale after a day or two, so the quality of espresso tails off.

Instant in the jetboil for long trips, and then try to find a cafe!
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:36 AM   #15
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Sheesh. Some of you guys oughta just travel with your own barista.

Link to the minimalist method here.

Yes, small and light works well, but some people balk at the tinkering. Not me.

Here's a few pictures of my camp cooking setup with the 25 ton table rock. Didn't want to start a range fire with spilled methanol fuel. This camp was just west of Hwy 395 and north of Abert Lake.











Camped solo one night, then met up with RV friends for several more days. They even let me stay on the RV couch, which was nice as it frosted each morning.

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