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Old 02-26-2013, 08:09 AM   #1
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Longest Flight on a Home Built Airplane !

Peru, IN to Honolulu, HI in 22.hrs !!!

180 kts, 400 gallons of fuel got him there...

route : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...800Z/KGUS/PHNL

chatter : http://www.beechtalk.com/forums/view...hp?f=7&t=75593
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:10 AM   #2
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I remember somewhere 2 people flew around the world in a homebuilt airplane.....nonstop if I remember correctly....
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:27 AM   #3
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Peter Garrison flew Melmoth further over water

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Garrison's original Melmoth flew across both the Atlantic
and the Pacific. The distance over water in the Pacific
flight was greater than the ENTIRE distance flown by the Lancair
you mention.


And as Beemer Bob noted, Dick Rutan and Jeana
Yeager flew the Burt Rutan designed Voyager around the
entire world NONSTOP. The book which details the efforts
involved in both the build and the flight is a great read.


So this flight by the Lancair is hardly the longest flight by a
homebuilt aircraft.


Not even close.


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Old 02-26-2013, 09:40 AM   #4
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Garrison's original Melmoth flew across both the Atlantic
and the Pacific. The distance over water in the Pacific
flight was greater than the ENTIRE distance flown by the Lancair
you mention.


And as Beemer Bob noted, Dick Rutan and Jeana
Yeager flew the Burt Rutan designed Voyager around the
entire world NONSTOP. The book which details the efforts
involved in both the build and the flight is a great read.


So this flight by the Lancair is hardly the longest flight by a
homebuilt aircraft.


Not even close.


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I believe both of those examples you outline are designated as experimental.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:57 AM   #5
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Is that the normal range of a Lancair or did they put in extra tanks?


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Old 02-26-2013, 10:13 AM   #6
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I believe both of those examples you outline are designated as experimental.

It's true that Melmoth and Voyager were licensed in the "experimental"
category but that's a pedantic distinction that has nothing to do with
how far the aircraft flew.


Maybe you'd better call the National Air and Space Museum and tell them
that Voyager doesn't have the right to hang from their ceiling because it
was not certified in the normal category



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Old 02-26-2013, 10:14 AM   #7
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Is that the normal range of a Lancair ?


No.
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:20 AM   #8
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Word is he took off with ~400 gal aboard. I'm not familiar with the Lancair IV but I would guess that stock is ~50gal.

~2500lb of fuel - That's serious business right there.
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Which means... its wasn't a box stock Lancair either.
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Word is he took off with ~400 gal aboard. I'm not familiar with the Lancair IV but I would guess that stock is ~50gal.

~2500lb of fuel - That's serious business right there.
No kidding, it's a scary proposition with that much fuel on board. My father delivered the first dash 8 to Australia. It was retrofitted with extra fuel bladders in the wings and gravity tanks in the fuselage. He said he couldn't help but think he was flying a big gas bomb waiting to explode .
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Which means... its wasn't a box stock Lancair either.
That's what I was thinking too. Shouldn't it then be labeled experimental or some such? The Feds are pretty picky about extended range tanks.


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Lancairs are EX-AB - builder specifies max gross weight.

Also, the owner can make modifications - he'd be able to add ferry tanks with just his own logbook signoff.
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Interesting. I read somewhere that the Feds were reluctant to approve extended tanks on some planes because they felt they would be popular with smugglers. True or urban legend?


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Well in the Lancair's case you could have gas or blow, but not both. Unless you were smuggling diamonds or something.

Add-on tanks, esp. in the fuselage, have a whole swarm of technical and safety issues around them that are both a PITA to address and an even worse one to regulate on.
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Interesting. I read somewhere that the Feds were reluctant to approve extended tanks on some planes because they felt they would be popular with smugglers. True or urban legend?


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Likely false. Ferry tanks in type-certified craft (cessna,piper, ect) are "tough" to get approved because there's a bunch of engineering (weight, structure,fuel, electrical) for each installation that the Feds have to approve.

On an experimental, the type cert is unique and established by the builder (including gross weight). If the extra gross weight capacity is available, an additional tank would be a modification that an owner or any aircraft mechanic could perform and sign off on. A weight increase would require an amendment to the TC, and engineering documentation for the weight increase (only) would have to be supplied. All other approvals would still be the responsibility of the owner.
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