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Old 02-21-2013, 08:22 PM   #1
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Washington LED light laws

Hey folks, curious to know what Washington's rules are on LED light kits. Not looking to be flashy, or showy or anything, but there have been far too many times riding later at night that I've almost been merged into. Riding season is coming up on us, so I'm just looking for a way to be more noticed. I keep reading the laws regarding, and it just confuses me more. Just looking to put maybe two strips illuminating my engine. Just enough to let people know I'm there.

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Old 02-21-2013, 08:31 PM   #2
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Just do it. I ride all year, and I figure the cops have better things to worry about than motorcycles with some extra conspicuity. Never had a problem so far.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:45 PM   #3
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. . . . . Just looking to put maybe two strips illuminating my engine. Just enough to let people know I'm there.
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Of course, you'd certainly be ticketed for lights that are blue, and most probably red . . . . . .

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Old 02-21-2013, 08:50 PM   #4
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Of course, you'd certainly be ticketed for lights that are blue, and most probably red . . . . . .

Ride an amazon green Buell S3T and a green KLR, and a green Honda Metropolitan. See a trend? Hah. I assumed as long as the lights weren't blinding anyone, I'd be fine, but I really hate paying for tickets which I think are unjustified.
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:49 PM   #5
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It's very rare that the middle of the bike needs lights. The fore and aft are the most valuable bright areas. These are also two spots that you're least likely to have po-po issues. Get a good set of fog/driving lights and a some additional LED running/brake lights. Also, consider the clothing that you're wearing. Brightly colored and reflective jacket, pants and helmet make an incredible difference in conspicuity.

Remember, you go where you look. Do you want that person sitting next to you in traffic staring at the pretty color of your engine's decorative lights? You want to be noticed, but don't want stares.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:23 PM   #6
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It's very rare that the middle of the bike needs lights. The fore and aft are the most valuable bright areas. These are also two spots that you're least likely to have po-po issues. Get a good set of fog/driving lights and a some additional LED running/brake lights. Also, consider the clothing that you're wearing. Brightly colored and reflective jacket, pants and helmet make an incredible difference in conspicuity.

Remember, you go where you look. Do you want that person sitting next to you in traffic staring at the pretty color of your engine's decorative lights? You want to be noticed, but don't want stares.
It's mostly people merging into me at night that scares me. My front headlight and taillight are quite bright. Haven't had too many issues with that regard, but I've been almost merged into many times.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:32 PM   #7
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I believe the law says red lights in the rear and yellow or amber on the sides.
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:13 AM   #8
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Then perhaps it is time to re-assess your riding gear. High-viz gear changes traffic patterns around you. In your situation, reflective everything should do the trick. Go buy a strip of 3M SOLAS grade reflective tape and create some cool patterns on your helmet. There is plenty on a roll to add some to your bike, too.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:39 AM   #9
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:28 AM   #10
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Conspicuity

Not meaning to sound condescending, but I stopped having that problem when I started making sure I stayed out of cager blind spots. I-5, or in town, I make the effort to get ahead of, or stay behind, cagers trying to kill me. Not as hard as it seems, and certainly not taxing, it just becomes part of the routine.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:00 PM   #11
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Not meaning to sound condescending, but I stopped having that problem when I started making sure I stayed out of cager blind spots. I-5, or in town, I make the effort to get ahead of, or stay behind, cagers trying to kill me. Not as hard as it seems, and certainly not taxing, it just becomes part of the routine.
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Then perhaps it is time to re-assess your riding gear. High-viz gear changes traffic patterns around you. In your situation, reflective everything should do the trick. Go buy a strip of 3M SOLAS grade reflective tape and create some cool patterns on your helmet. There is plenty on a roll to add some to your bike, too.
do both of these.

You'll still be merged into as you're safely passing that dope on their phone.
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:10 PM   #12
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Now Tim - if you were 'safely' passing it'd be at reasonable speed, yes?
I like the phrase "pass with prejudice" ...works for me (even in the hack!)
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:01 PM   #13
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:46 AM   #14
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Yeah, I've got a high-vis jacket, I've got reflective tape on my arm, and down my leg, I stay out of blind spots, even have loud pipes. Nothing wrong with a little more, because even with all that, I've still had the teenage girl texting swerve too close. I know lights won't make it impossible to be ignored, but it makes it harder. Just wondering the legality of it.
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