ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Beasts
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-03-2013, 04:27 PM   #16
theloop
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Oddometer: 342
Off topic, but the 650 v strom was on my short list for my next bike, but after reading over $200 for a fuel filter, and over $700 for a fuel pump, the 650 v strom might be moving more towards the bottom of my short list.
theloop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 04:46 PM   #17
Boon Booni
Red Clay Halo
 
Boon Booni's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Richmond, Va
Oddometer: 12,987
Quote:
Originally Posted by theloop View Post
Off topic, but the 650 v strom was on my short list for my next bike, but after reading over $200 for a fuel filter, and over $700 for a fuel pump, the 650 v strom might be moving more towards the bottom of my short list.
What's your list look like?
__________________
Where the fuck...
Where the fuck is the bike?
You gotta be shitting me.
Where the fuck is the road?
Boon Booni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 04:47 PM   #18
Big Toe
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Big Toe's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Peterborough Ont. Canada
Oddometer: 216
Quote:
Originally Posted by theloop View Post
Off topic, but the 650 v strom was on my short list for my next bike, but after reading over $200 for a fuel filter, and over $700 for a fuel pump, the 650 v strom might be moving more towards the bottom of my short list.
Don't worry the V-Strom is about the most realible bike out there. I know many people with over 100,000 mi. with no problems.
__________________
Art in Peterborough
2003 DL1000
2003 Yamaha WR250F Woods & Ice Bike
Big Toe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 04:50 PM   #19
Jamie Z OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Jamie Z's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: almost Memphis
Oddometer: 7,667
FWIW, my understanding is that the fuel pump itself has a very low rate of failure.

However, my reading shows that the integrated high-pressure fuel filter inside the pump assembly often gets clogged. Replacing the (expensive) filter, or bypassing it and using an external automotive filter solves the low-flow problem.

I should be able to fix it tomorrow for ~$50.

Jamie
__________________
I'm the Tent Space Guy Sign up to host fellow travelers here.

Budget Travel the Jamie Z Way
Jamie Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 05:24 PM   #20
Jamie Z OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Jamie Z's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: almost Memphis
Oddometer: 7,667
Quote:
Originally Posted by theloop View Post
Off topic, but the 650 v strom was on my short list for my next bike, but after reading over $200 for a fuel filter, and over $700 for a fuel pump, the 650 v strom might be moving more towards the bottom of my short list.
You did read that I have over 116,000 miles on my bike right? Factory fuel pump. Factory fuel filter.

The problem is that the filter is not easily replaceable. There are instructions floating around the web on how to bypass the filter and replace it with an automotive inline type.

But I can understand your hesitance. I'm going to have trouble trusting this POS after letting me down this one time.

Jamie
__________________
I'm the Tent Space Guy Sign up to host fellow travelers here.

Budget Travel the Jamie Z Way
Jamie Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 05:54 PM   #21
theloop
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Oddometer: 342
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Booni View Post
What's your list look like?
The cb500x (w/ABS) was number one after I sat on one at the north american motorcycle show Number two was the 650 v strom, sat a little high, but that can be corrected, and it has better wind protection than the cb500x, and should be better if I ever have to jump on the freeway. Number three is the NT700v, but do not like the idea of side loading plastic bags. And number four is the NC700x, I will have to go take a second look, but sitting on the bike, something just felt off that I could not put my finger on (plus no ABS with the standard shift). I will be replacing a 2003 750 honda ace, I just want to get my feet back under me, and let my legs take some of the bumps in the road, other than my lower back.
theloop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 06:26 PM   #22
Boon Booni
Red Clay Halo
 
Boon Booni's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Richmond, Va
Oddometer: 12,987
Quote:
Originally Posted by theloop View Post
The cb500x (w/ABS) was number one after I sat on one at the north american motorcycle show Number two was the 650 v strom, sat a little high, but that can be corrected, and it has better wind protection than the cb500x, and should be better if I ever have to jump on the freeway. Number three is the NT700v, but do not like the idea of side loading plastic bags. And number four is the NC700x, I will have to go take a second look, but sitting on the bike, something just felt off that I could not put my finger on (plus no ABS with the standard shift). I will be replacing a 2003 750 honda ace, I just want to get my feet back under me, and let my legs take some of the bumps in the road, other than my lower back.
Can't go wrong with any of those. I'd price out a replacement fuel pump on one of the Hondas before I passed judgement. The Strom pump is not a typical point of failure, even in this thread it seems to me Jamie has some bad gas, not a bad pump.
__________________
Where the fuck...
Where the fuck is the bike?
You gotta be shitting me.
Where the fuck is the road?
Boon Booni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 07:50 PM   #23
Flashmo
Whatever...
 
Flashmo's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Vagabond Hippie
Oddometer: 2,539
Quote:
Originally Posted by theloop View Post
and should be better if I ever have to jump on the freeway.
Just ride down to the burger joint and back, or what?







Jamie, you might try just pulling the tank, draining the fuel, and putting 1 good gallon of fuel in the tank to see if it goes. Water in the fuel sits on the bottom, where bikes pull from...
Flashmo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 08:18 PM   #24
Jamie Z OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Jamie Z's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: almost Memphis
Oddometer: 7,667
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flashmo View Post
Jamie, you might try just pulling the tank, draining the fuel, and putting 1 good gallon of fuel in the tank to see if it goes. Water in the fuel sits on the bottom, where bikes pull from...
Well, even the fuel flow rate was well below spec, and the high-pressure filter is known to clog up.

Bad fuel or no, it's pretty clear that I need a new filter.

So... what do I do with the bad gas. Everyone says to drain it. Where?

Jamie
__________________
I'm the Tent Space Guy Sign up to host fellow travelers here.

Budget Travel the Jamie Z Way
Jamie Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 08:21 PM   #25
Reposado1800
Juicy J fan!
 
Reposado1800's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: 5th and Main
Oddometer: 5,740
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie Z View Post
Well, even the fuel flow rate was well below spec, and the high-pressure filter is known to clog up.

Bad fuel or no, it's pretty clear that I need a new filter.

So... what do I do with the bad gas. Everyone says to drain it. Where?

Jamie
Set it on fire. Somewhere safe.
__________________
Hate gets you nowhere.
Tequila is a weapon of mass destruction.
Reposado1800 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 08:40 PM   #26
Flashmo
Whatever...
 
Flashmo's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Vagabond Hippie
Oddometer: 2,539
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie Z View Post
Well, even the fuel flow rate was well below spec, and the high-pressure filter is known to clog up.
You are correct, I just had that photo burned into my head. I would be changing the filter as well. Wish mine was a candidate for the bypass...

Old gas gets metered into a V-8, with fuel injection, so it does not care if it is not like new. Gas like your photo goes into a large bowl, set outside and allowed to evaporate. I wish the places that accepted hazardous wastes (like old paint) would take it.
Flashmo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 08:41 PM   #27
Jamie Z OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Jamie Z's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: almost Memphis
Oddometer: 7,667
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reposado1800 View Post
Set it on fire. Somewhere safe.
That'll be fun.

I live in an apartment complex.

I just filled it with five gallons of fresh gas... seems that most of that should be fine if I siphon it carefully.

Jamie
__________________
I'm the Tent Space Guy Sign up to host fellow travelers here.

Budget Travel the Jamie Z Way
Jamie Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2013, 10:09 PM   #28
Boon Booni
Red Clay Halo
 
Boon Booni's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Richmond, Va
Oddometer: 12,987
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie Z View Post
That'll be fun.

I live in an apartment complex.

I just filled it with five gallons of fresh gas... seems that most of that should be fine if I siphon it carefully.

Jamie
Get two 5 gallon buckets. Dump as much as you can of your tank into one of the buckets. Water settles to the bottom so you should be able to pour the good fuel off the top into the other bucket. Then pour the rest of your tank into the bucket the with water and pour as much of that into the other before the water starts to go over the the lip. You can put the good bucket back into the bike.

It will probably be hard starting at first because you've got the fuel lines filled with water. You could pull the fuel rail and drain it. (you might need to pull the throttle bodies to do that though, I can't remember)

Don't forget to drill the high pressure filter and do the external filter mod and you should be as good as new.
__________________
Where the fuck...
Where the fuck is the bike?
You gotta be shitting me.
Where the fuck is the road?
Boon Booni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2013, 05:34 PM   #29
theloop
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Oddometer: 342
[QUOTE=Flashmo;20858657]Just ride down to the burger joint and back, or what?

Sometimes Ya got to leave work on friday and try to make it to the campgrounds where the good riding is before it gets to late, but always seem to set up camp in the dark, or have to jump on I-75 to get across the Big Mac.
Burger King, I'll build a fire and cook over it.

Getting ready to cross the Big Mac.

theloop screwed with this post 03-04-2013 at 05:42 PM
theloop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2013, 05:50 PM   #30
theloop
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Oddometer: 342
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamie Z View Post
You did read that I have over 116,000 miles on my bike right? Factory fuel pump. Factory fuel filter.

The problem is that the filter is not easily replaceable. There are instructions floating around the web on how to bypass the filter and replace it with an automotive inline type.

But I can understand your hesitance. I'm going to have trouble trusting this POS after letting me down this one time.

Jamie
Thanks Jamie, I didn't notice that you had that many miles on your bike, I could wind up with the v strom since it is sounding like the cb500x may be in short supply on early production.
theloop is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 06:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014