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Old 03-05-2013, 09:35 AM   #1
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Starter drags when warm.

I have a 2010 VT1300 Honda. Has the original battery. It starts right up when it's cold. If the weather is cool out it starts right up. If it's really hot out and I run it for an extended period of time the starter drags.

I took it to the dealer and of course they couldn't reproduce the problem. So they did nothing. I guess I should be glad they didn't just throw a new battery in there hopeing that would fix it.

My question is - Can't the electric components be tested to isolate the problem. Everyone I talk to says "Well it could be the battery or it could be the starter".
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:43 AM   #2
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I have a 2010 VT1300 Honda. Has the original battery. It starts right up when it's cold. If the weather is cool out it starts right up. If it's really hot out and I run it for an extended period of time the starter drags.

I took it to the dealer and of course they couldn't reproduce the problem. So they did nothing. I guess I should be glad they didn't just throw a new battery in there hopeing that would fix it.

My question is - Can't the electric components be tested to isolate the problem. Everyone I talk to says "Well it could be the battery or it could be the starter".
It can also be the engine electronic controls, not retarding the timing. Or a nonfunctional compression release. Even a leaking fuel injector can cause this, if the engine is hot enough to diesel.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:07 PM   #3
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What does a voltmeter say if you try to start it when things are hot? Does the battery voltage fall flat?
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:01 AM   #4
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It can also be the engine electronic controls, not retarding the timing. Or a nonfunctional compression release. Even a leaking fuel injector can cause this, if the engine is hot enough to diesel.
That open up a whole new can of worms. I didn't realize it could be those things.

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What does a voltmeter say if you try to start it when things are hot? Does the battery voltage fall flat?
I am pretty limited in my mechanical abilities and tools. I don't have a voltmeter. But that is really why I was asking. Shouldn't the dealer have been able to stick a meter on there and at least rule some things out?

I'll look into getting someone to put a voltmeter on it. First step at least.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:02 PM   #5
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if it were a high mile bike the first thing I would look at is the shaft bushings in the starter motor

how many miles?

how hard is it to pull the starter?
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:53 AM   #6
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I have a 2010 VT1300 Honda. Has the original battery. It starts right up when it's cold. If the weather is cool out it starts right up. If it's really hot out and I run it for an extended period of time the starter drags.

I took it to the dealer and of course they couldn't reproduce the problem. So they did nothing. I guess I should be glad they didn't just throw a new battery in there hopeing that would fix it.

My question is - Can't the electric components be tested to isolate the problem. Everyone I talk to says "Well it could be the battery or it could be the starter".
Had exactly the same problem on my GS, start perfect when cold, engine hot no way..................... Epoxy on the magnets let go and one mgnet was resting on the stator, as mentioned above pull the starter & have a lookie, good luck.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:31 AM   #7
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if it were a high mile bike the first thing I would look at is the shaft bushings in the starter motor

how many miles?

how hard is it to pull the starter?
28,000

Not sure on the starter. I have a service manual but limited abilities. I'll do some research and see if that is something I feel comfortable doing. I have learned to do all the general maintenance, but haven't really gotten into trouble shooting and repairs.

Thanks for all the replies guys.
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