AMA Pro Roadracing: Daytona! - Page 5

jktpa · 03-15-2013, 12:29 PM

watched it on speed2 good race!

yooperbikemike · 03-15-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mdubya

SS race sounded awesome.

Is anyone able to view on SPEED2.com, live?

Ama put gillam p3 due to placement of transponder. Beat Matt 'ski across line

mdubya · 03-15-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jktpa

watched it on speed2 good race!

Good to know. I was wondering if they really were streaming live.

mdubya · 03-15-2013, 12:34 PM

More streaming options at 5 PM

http://www.firstrow1.eu/sport/motosport.html

Maybe it is 4 PM?

Will know soon.

RichBeBe · 03-15-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Head

Superbikes are on the short course, DSB are on the long course. No idea what changes between the two.
AMA Link

Track Map

Gotcha...Thanks, makes sense from the map. They keep the big bikes off of the turn#1 and 2 tri-oval.
I knew it had to be something, the laptimes were so different.

yooperbikemike · 03-15-2013, 01:41 PM

Hayes fries his clutch off th line and drops out 5--6 laps in; RLH crash w on the 1st lap
Herrin, Cardenas, Pegram

yooperbikemike · 03-15-2013, 02:42 PM

mdubya · 03-15-2013, 03:01 PM

The broadcast is on now if anyone missed it.

http://www.firstrow1.eu/watch/174970...portbike-.html

mdubya · 03-15-2013, 03:53 PM

Can't believe Cardenas didn't pull that off! Congrats to Josh.

Me and my monkee · 03-15-2013, 07:37 PM

Missed it. Anywhere to watch it online now?

Jim Moore · 03-16-2013, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mdubya

Can't believe Cardenas didn't pull that off! Congrats to Josh.

We couldn't see Cardenas wheelie coming out of the chicane from the grandstands, but it was obvious something had happened. Herrin suddenly had 15 bike lengths.

wpbarlow · 03-16-2013, 06:55 AM

The racing was interesting for some positions, and the camera work was pretty good. I was very surprised at how the last lap unfolded.

But talk about an event with the stench of general disinterest.

Remember when the big debate about the Daytona 200 was limiting the number of riders to 80 (iirc) or so in 3 waves of riders?

Almost as depressing as the small number of fans-- no fooling, it looked like there were more people on the track (crew, etc.) than watching.

I'm starting to feel that roadracing is just not engaging enough for many fans these day. As brutal and difficult as it is, without an appreciation of what the riders are actually doing it looks unexciting compared to, say, supercross. And that's in person. It's even worse from a TV perspective-- as roadracing doesn't work well with the "switch the camera/image every 2-4 seconds" viewing that today's seemingly ADD-afflicted young fans need.

Know what else I found depressing/surprising? Larry Pegram's comments re looking for another sponsor. Instead of saying something like "hey, I can offer you a lot of TV time for your product" he says "anyone out there have extra money in the advertising budget to sponsor me?" Not what I'd expect from a person who's accomplished so much wrt putting together a credible effort for so long.

Cpt. Ron · 03-16-2013, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wpbarlow

Know what else I found depressing/surprising? Larry Pegram's comments re looking for another sponsor. Instead of saying something like "hey, I can offer you a lot of TV time for your product" he says "anyone out there have extra money in the advertising budget to sponsor me?" Not what I'd expect from a person who's accomplished so much wrt putting together a credible effort for so long.

And pulls out a third place on a new-to-him bike....

wpbarlow · 03-16-2013, 08:01 AM

According to their website, Speed is showing the 200 at 1:30 on Sunday, flattrack at 6, and Superbike & Sportbike at 9. Eastern time.

stk0308 · 03-16-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wpbarlow

Know what else I found depressing/surprising? Larry Pegram's comments re looking for another sponsor. Instead of saying something like "hey, I can offer you a lot of TV time for your product"

Well that's the problem. He can't promise that because the TV deal isn't really clear enough to give real exposure numbers to a sponsor.

03-15-2013, 12:29 PM	#61
jktpa X-Troller Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Fla. Left Coast Oddometer: 718	watched it on speed2 good race! __________________ Knick Low Tech-Hi Fun F800GS M696 ET4

03-15-2013, 12:34 PM	#64
mdubya Right Brigade Joined: Oct 2005 Location: western, MD Oddometer: 5,731	More streaming options at 5 PM http://www.firstrow1.eu/sport/motosport.html Maybe it is 4 PM? Will know soon. __________________ +0

03-15-2013, 01:41 PM	#66
yooperbikemike ^OP high, wide and handsome Joined: Apr 2003 Location: The blue groove Oddometer: 11,746	Hayes fries his clutch off th line and drops out 5--6 laps in; RLH crash w on the 1st lap Herrin, Cardenas, Pegram __________________ "...people in the stands want to see good, close racing. The thing is to put on a show, and that’s what’s going to draw people in..." -- Scotty Parker

03-15-2013, 02:42 PM	#67
yooperbikemike ^OP high, wide and handsome Joined: Apr 2003 Location: The blue groove Oddometer: 11,746	__________________ "...people in the stands want to see good, close racing. The thing is to put on a show, and that’s what’s going to draw people in..." -- Scotty Parker

03-15-2013, 03:01 PM	#68
mdubya Right Brigade Joined: Oct 2005 Location: western, MD Oddometer: 5,731	The broadcast is on now if anyone missed it. http://www.firstrow1.eu/watch/174970...portbike-.html __________________ +0

03-15-2013, 03:53 PM	#69
mdubya Right Brigade Joined: Oct 2005 Location: western, MD Oddometer: 5,731	Can't believe Cardenas didn't pull that off! Congrats to Josh. __________________ +0

03-15-2013, 07:37 PM	#70
Me and my monkee Out makin' Monkee Maps Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Augusta GA Oddometer: 958	Missed it. Anywhere to watch it online now? __________________ 2001 Moto Guzzi California Jackal, 2000 Kawasaki ZG1000 Concours, 2001 Suzuki SV650S, 2001 Suzuki DR650SE, 2001 Kawasaki BN125 Eliminator, 1981 Kawasaki AR80

03-16-2013, 06:55 AM	#72
wpbarlow Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Central NJ Oddometer: 7,891	The racing was interesting for some positions, and the camera work was pretty good. I was very surprised at how the last lap unfolded. But talk about an event with the stench of general disinterest. Remember when the big debate about the Daytona 200 was limiting the number of riders to 80 (iirc) or so in 3 waves of riders? Almost as depressing as the small number of fans-- no fooling, it looked like there were more people on the track (crew, etc.) than watching. I'm starting to feel that roadracing is just not engaging enough for many fans these day. As brutal and difficult as it is, without an appreciation of what the riders are actually doing it looks unexciting compared to, say, supercross. And that's in person. It's even worse from a TV perspective-- as roadracing doesn't work well with the "switch the camera/image every 2-4 seconds" viewing that today's seemingly ADD-afflicted young fans need. Know what else I found depressing/surprising? Larry Pegram's comments re looking for another sponsor. Instead of saying something like "hey, I can offer you a lot of TV time for your product" he says "anyone out there have extra money in the advertising budget to sponsor me?" Not what I'd expect from a person who's accomplished so much wrt putting together a credible effort for so long. __________________ Walter Barlow

03-16-2013, 08:01 AM	#74
wpbarlow Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Central NJ Oddometer: 7,891	According to their website, Speed is showing the 200 at 1:30 on Sunday, flattrack at 6, and Superbike & Sportbike at 9. Eastern time. __________________ Walter Barlow

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