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Old 03-11-2013, 12:06 AM   #1
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1958 R-50. what do I need to know?

I have a line on this bike at my local dealer.

I dont have any details really about the bike, YET.

He wants 5500$ Think thats to much? parts uber scarce for this vintage yet? problem points on this model?

This would be my first venture into the world of Old machines.... what should I look for on this beast?

thoughts of turning it into a cafe bike...or keep it totally stock?

Help a N00B out here!!!


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Old 03-11-2013, 01:07 AM   #2
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If you do anything other than keep it stock you need your dangly bits cutting off!!!!!!
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:14 AM   #3
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thoughts of turning it into a cafe bike...or keep it totally stock?

Help a N00B out here!!!


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A cafe bike out of this, are you serious ?





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Old 03-11-2013, 07:33 AM   #4
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Taking the risk of me sounding as an old piss: if you don't know much about old bikes and are considering to cafe this fine specimen you'd better step away and look for something different. Some old UJM to convert, at least as much fun and a lot less motorcycle being ruined.
That being said, it's just my personal opinion and I do think you always should do as you please, but keep in mind the airhead commitee might frown upon it Just do me/us one favour; first ride it as it is for a while. Hopefully you'll find out they're great machines as they are that don't need to be modified in order to enjoy them.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:37 AM   #5
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before you chop it up i'll trade you even a small tank for the large one on that bike. all cafe racers have small tanks
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:27 AM   #6
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LOL...ok,ok... Sorry to go getting all you guys riled up.

I'll skip the cafe racer then...bike looks sharp as hell as it is...I really was just thinking handlebars anyway.

So this thing's that rare? I get the "purest" look...and honestley keeping it stock, would be my first choice.

so what weak points....whats parts/systems are most likely to have been replaced or messed with?

As i said, I know little to nothing about these old machines so some heads up about any likely issues with this model or this class boxer in general would be great.

No i havent started digging for info yet... hoped |You folks could help narrow down that legwork a bit so i can focus my efforts a bit more. any real good online resource to help me evaluate this bike?
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:22 AM   #7
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Thumb Why not cafe it out?

As nice as that bike is, it not really all that rare. The conventional wisdom on buying one of these bikes is to tear the motor down and clean the crankshaft slingers. Sludge gets trapped in the slingers due to there is not an oil filter on these motors.

These are best resources for information and parts in no particular order.

Benchmark Works-has everything and restores them
http://www.benchmarkworks.com/

Brooks Motor Works-races them and restores them
http://brooksmotorworks.com/

Barrington Motor works-restores them, builds racers and has a restoration bible.
http://www.barringtonmotorworks.com/

Cycle works-sells special motor tools and parts
http://www.cycleworks.net/

BMW-VMCA
Great vintage BMW club that has a FREE tool loan program.
http://bmwvmca.org/

Yahoo slash2 group-daily discussion on all levels
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/slash2/

Duane Ausherman-Sold them and fixed back in the day, an excellent resource.
http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/


John's Beemer garage. cool pics.
http://www.beemergarage.com/

Read Duanes site first and go from there. Buy the barrington book, the smartest $100 you will spend on that bike.


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Old 03-11-2013, 10:51 AM   #8
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Hope you're kidding about the cafe bit! If you want lower handlebars, just get the Euro bars. Those are fabulous bikes, they have their idiosyncracies for sure (slingers, for one, as mentioned above) and they are kick-start-only with a magneto ignition... but once you get the know what the old girl likes when she's cold, and when she's hot, they start easily and reliably...

Someone best RUN to buy it at that price....

And yes, they are a sweet, sweet ride... smooth, elegant, classy... NOT a hot-rod nor should it every be made into such!

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Old 03-11-2013, 10:58 AM   #9
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You'll give even more people hart attacks if you post this in the airheads section, and really emphasize wanting to cafe it.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:38 AM   #10
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You do realize these things are piss slow. what do you want to do with it? Might be marginally faster than an Enfield, but not by much from what I've heard.

Definately not a bike for the interstates, just 2 lane back roads for sure.

From the sounds of it this really is not the bike for you.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:07 PM   #11
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Here is my opinion.

They are slow and just about as slow if not slower braking. Even though there is not alot of power it is the smoothest more comfortable bike when cruising at 55-60. I push my R50 to about 70 on the interstate and have for hours with no problems give it any more throttle than that and it just makes more noise and doesn't really go much faster. On the interstate in a full tuck I have hit 90 just to see what it would do.

You can not ride this bike without a smile on your face. Just a great feeling bike. Very low center of gravity makes riding it at slow speeds easy and fun.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:28 PM   #12
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Ride it

I put over 300,000 trouble free miles on a R69S. If you buy the bike, let me know and I will pass along Clantonb Austell's phone number. He kept mine in great shape and has spares.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:35 PM   #13
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It's your call...









but I would keep it stock and cool....
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:07 AM   #14
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THANKS a bunch Gents! thats the feedback I was hoping for.

SlackerSteve, spot on info...I found tons of hits with a cursory search...but sorting the wheat from the chaff is a pain...I knew someone could point me in the right direction.

I'll do some research online and take that knowledge to the dealers and check out the bike with a Friend thats a much better wrench than I am.

I don't care for the dealership much and have a bad taste in my mouth from previous experience with them... so I'd prefer to have all the info i can walking in looking at this beauty.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:12 PM   #15
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Buy the bike and do what ever you want to it!

If the bike is so rare? It would have already been sold more than likely by the time you started this thread.

You should buy it just for the gas tank.

Buy it! Ride it! Have fun with it!

Then when you "REALLY" want to piss off the purists & wannabee's make a conversion out of it with an R90's motor.
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