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Old 03-12-2013, 07:53 PM   #1
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Someone stop me - I really want to cafe my Ambassador

So I have this '71 Ambassador. I bought it as a rolling heap off of eBay on a whim, and had a great time fixing it up. It's apart right now getting a fresh rear main oil seal, but I expect it to be back together and back on the road this month. I did a light cosmetic re-fresh, which mostly consisted of a very nice and very expensive paint job for the tinware and Wixom bags. Here's a photo:



I love the way the loopframes look, and the engine is my favorite of all the Guzzis, what with that car-like distributor and the belt driven generator. The thing is, I don't really like riding it all that much. I'm not a cruiser guy, and I much prefer riding my old airheads or my V11 LeMans. This old loop tends to just sit there. So I decided earlier this year that I'm going to sell it as soon as I get it back together and confirm that it no longer leaks oil.

Trouble is, I'm having a really hard time parting with it. And not in its present form - I keep picturing it stripped of all that pretty paint work and all the other non-essential bits and bobs and kitted out with better suspension and a racy fairing and turned into a cafe racer. Something that I would relish riding. Someone please talk me out of this. I need another bike project like I need a hole in the front of my skull.

Alternatively, make me an offer on all the painted parts so I can start with my sick obsession.

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Old 03-12-2013, 08:12 PM   #2
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Not exactly cafe...

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Old 03-12-2013, 08:30 PM   #3
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Yeah, that doesn't exactly help me...
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:28 PM   #4
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Not exactly cafe...

let's see:

vintage air cooled twin,check
all unnecessary bodywork removed, check
upgraded exhaust, check
upgraded electrics, check
upgraded front suspension, check
upgraded rear suspension, check
upgraded brakes, check
upgraded handlebars, check
upgraded engine, check
upgraded carbs, check
finished top 3 in all (except one 5th place) races entered


yeah, definitely not a cafe since it's probably never actually been parked at a cafe, can't be done to a loop, sell it.
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:57 AM   #5
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So I'm not the only one in that situation, I love the look of Loops but every time I ride one I happily get back on my T-3.

Beautiful bike as it is, there's lots of old Tontis out there that would scratch your cafe' itch.

Edit to add:

But this is awesme

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Old 03-13-2013, 06:35 AM   #6
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Hi Andrew,
I'm Stefano and I'm from Italy.
I've got a Guzzi 850GT (the bike look like the American's Eldorado and Ambassador) and I've decided to cafe it for the same reason you are telling about. But there is an important difference....to realize my dream I've choosen a completely destroied bike! Infact I think that this kind of work can't be done on a good and complete bike as your '71 Ambassador! As you know, this bikes are rare and precious and they must be conserved as Guzzi built them. Naturally this is a personal opinion!!! You can do everything you want to do with your bike....
My bike now is this......but in this days I'm doing many changes (headlight, fenders and other things).....









I hope this images could help you.....
this is my thread:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=865075

Best reguards
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:25 AM   #7
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Sell it and buy a tonti to cafe.
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Old 03-13-2013, 01:42 PM   #8
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:47 PM   #9
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I'm a little surprised this thread didn't head off in the purists direction

My take on it is go right ahead but put all the pretty painted things somewhere safe and do you cafe without cutting or altering so you can go back to stock should you get the urge. Would be a real bonus for resale too.
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:54 PM   #10
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sell it and buy a tonti to cafe.
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Old 03-13-2013, 08:06 PM   #11
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thats the way I suggest also...

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I'm a little surprised this thread didn't head off in the purists direction

My take on it is go right ahead but put all the pretty painted things somewhere safe and do you cafe without cutting or altering so you can go back to stock should you get the urge. Would be a real bonus for resale too.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:23 AM   #12
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what a great looking bike. Why would you want to butcher it?

Sell it to someone would appreciate it as it is and buy something else to chop up. There's only so many of them out there. Be a shame to loose another
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:31 AM   #13
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what a great looking bike. Why would you want to butcher it?

Sell it to someone would appreciate it as it is and buy something else to chop up. There's only so many of them out there. Be a shame to loose another

+1 what he said.....what a shame it would be to mess that up
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:19 AM   #14
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Have you tried just putting some low euro/cafe bars on it. It can really transform a loop. My loop is my sport bike, of course my other 2 bikes are a SR50 Aprilia scooter and a 1700 Yamaha Roadstar.

If I had a rusted out barn find loop I wouldn't think twice about doing a cafe job on it. Why not just buy a $500 basket case?

ever seen one of these with the fairing off? That is where I would start...
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:06 PM   #15
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My personal inclination is to agree with Rob here. To loose such a beautiful example would be a shame.
However, and this is a BIG however, it is YOUR bike, bought with YOUR hard earned cash and therfore YOURS to do whatever you like with.
Just enjoy it.
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