Why do you prefer KTM 1190 over new R 1200 GS?

[Pedrogomezrios]

Hey, what do you think?

[a7an]

Fun

Why do we love motorcycles?

[igorpetrovich]

to me there are several reasons:

With the R you can do some serious off road ( and is fantastic on road as well)
The frame is better
The suspensions are superior
The motor is uncomparable, the GS might be better berween 1000 and 2000 rev, but for the rest forget it
Ktm is lighter
The way the traction control activates is way better on ktm
The look is better, to me the GS looks like mazinga Z
I don't like the rigidity of the shaft drive and I broke 2 in the past, no more!

Do you think it's enough??

[wpbarlow]

If you have to ask....

[Pedrogomezrios]

Originally Posted by wpbarlow

If you have to ask....

I just realized that i like the 1190 more and i decided that i am going to change my 1200 GSA, but i am asking for help to try to understand why :) And explain that to my sponsor (wife)

[Rob.G]

For me?

The 1190 has a real driveline (no shaft drive to fail)
The 1190 has a real swingarm (one that won't snap in two at the least opportune moment)
The 1190 doesn't have cylinder heads sticking out to be whacked on stuff if you go down
The 1190 is actually capable off-road
The 1190 is far less likely to have electrical problems
The 1190 is meant for real riders who will go off-road, not posers who probably won't :)

Rob

[TonyGibbons]

150hp, 150hp, and 150hp would be my first 3 reasons :)

Lighter = more fun + safer
Fuel economy seems to be on point


Besides - just look at the pic of Igor's bike - it's magnificent!

I have no problems doing 700-1000 mile days on my 990 and the 1190 will be night and day better for road work, so I don't see touring as an advantage for the BMW either (I'm not totally biased - I own a BMW too but it's an s1000rr)

[Katoom72]

I bleed orange

[NKL]

Don't like either of them.

[conrado]

The guys in GSpot are asking questions like "can I pair my iPhone to the GPS receiver using bluetooth"...

And this, believe it or not, is the toolkit of the new LC R1200GS:

[Katoom72]

Originally Posted by conrado

The guys in GSpot are asking questions like "can I pair my iPhone to the GPS receiver using bluetooth"...

And this, believe it or not, is the toolkit of the new LC R1200GS:

They have an iPhone to call their dealer for towing.

[Frog uk]

Originally Posted by igorpetrovich

to me there are several reasons:

With the R you can do some serious off road ( and is fantastic on road as well)
The frame is better
The suspensions are superior
The motor is uncomparable, the GS might be better berween 1000 and 2000 rev, but for the rest forget it
Ktm is lighter
The way the traction control activates is way better on ktm
The look is better, to me the GS looks like mazinga Z
I don't like the rigidity of the shaft drive and I broke 2 in the past, no more!

Do you think it's enough??

So what you're saying is the 1190 is shit between 1000 and 2000 rpm?

[igorpetrovich]

Originally Posted by Frog uk

So what you're saying is the 1190 is shit between 1000 and 2000 rpm?

absolutelly no! I was reading an other italian forum about this guy that tryed both bikes and wrote what he said about the motor (a bmw forum)
actually today I drove in enduro mode for a while and I have to say it's even more flexible, the best mode to drive in heavy traffic.

don't forget 1000 rev. it's f...ing low! you start driving the 990 above 3000 rev....

[Alejo]

Cause is a KTM....

[Goti]

Originally Posted by conrado

And this, believe it or not, is the toolkit of the new LC R1200GS:

Loved the instructions to organize such a large amount of tools