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Old 04-20-2013, 04:18 AM   #91
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Alright, then i am good to use no-toil to oil. The no-toil cleaner we use is a powder soap and you add water, so you got me a little confused there on not using that. That is what we use on all of our foam dirt bike filters as it is as about mild as you can get.
I'm just passing on what the filter importer is telling me.
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:53 PM   #92
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Got'er installed on my 06 950 SM. Was actually easy to do. I took my time and didn't disconnect anything from the carbs. Just pulled all the lines up through the bottom of the air box and pulled air box out with all the carb stuff still connected.


Starting off with the following setup for SM Sport Riding and tuning from there.

FMF cans
Part Factory Pro kit and Part H2W kit for my jetting
Main Jets 170R / 168F
Pilot Jet #45
Needles Factory Pro Ti needle 4 position from top
IMS screws 2 turns (Flex-Jet installed for easy adjustment)
Air Jet #70 as supplied by H2W to replace stock #50
Float Height 3.5MM







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Old 04-22-2013, 11:16 AM   #93
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Love the pics, man. Get her dyno'ed and let me know how that wild jetting works out!


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Got'er installed on my 06 950 SM. Was actually easy to do. I took my time and didn't disconnect anything from the carbs. Just pulled all the lines up through the bottom of the air box and pulled air box out with all the carb stuff still connected.


Starting off with the following setup for SM Sport Riding and tuning from there.

FMF cans
Part Factory Pro kit and Part H2W kit for my jetting
Main Jets 170R / 168F
Pilot Jet #45
Needles Factory Pro Ti needle 4 position from top
IMS screws 2 turns (Flex-Jet installed for easy adjustment)
Air Jet #70 as supplied by H2W to replace stock #50
Float Height 3.5MM






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Old 04-22-2013, 03:32 PM   #94
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Im waiting for someone who has installed one of these on their 950 to give us a comprehensive report on how it runs and the fuel consumption.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:31 PM   #95
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Would like to purchase the kit for 950 SE. Are they avail and ready to ship? Thx
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:53 PM   #96
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Would like to purchase the kit for 950 SE. Are they avail and ready to ship? Thx

Yep, have a SE/SMR kit in stock. Get your order in and I'll ship tonight!

Out of ADV/SM until a new shipment of filters arrives next week.
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:47 PM   #97
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Payment sent. Looking forward to the install. Should i nix the canister and plumbing while im at it?
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:23 AM   #98
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Payment sent. Looking forward to the install. Should i nix the canister and plumbing while im at it?
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Thanks!

I would relieve my bike of all those troublesome plumbing lines first thing.*

*For off road use only

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Old 04-26-2013, 04:54 PM   #99
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Look what arrived today from Amazon :) Time to put the carb and crankcase vent filters on and then the tank


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Old 04-27-2013, 05:58 AM   #100
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I’m waiting for someone who has installed one of these on their 950 to give us a comprehensive report on how it runs and the fuel consumption.
Have you ever known a freer-breathing engine to get poorer fuel economy?



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I installed a filter and tuned a friends bike yesterday.

It had Akras on it, no quiet tip. A 70 idle air jet, 45 slows and tiny mains(148 & 152) had been added along with a Uni pre filter dealio. I 'think' the needles were stock but couldn't tell for sure. They had been moved to the 3rd clip.

I set it up with 172 mains. Guessed that the richer bottom end would compensate somewhat and wanted to keep it from gasping at elevation...plus I didn't have a set of 175's. Adjusted the floats to 4mm from 3mm. Also didn't have any 50 idle air jets to set the slow mixture back to stock, so I got creative. Swapped air cut offs to 90's from 80's and put in 40's in place of 50 idle air jets. Total air is the same but it seems to backfire a bit when the throttle gets closed. . That'll get swapped back once some 50 air jets get ordered!

The bike ran like a raped ape, not rich or lean anywhere in its range. It remains to be seen how it runs at elevation (roughly 1000' here). I've always had a hard time getting the 45's to work on the mountain.
He is I and I am him. I made it up Mt. Mitchell, along the BRP yesterday - 6,500'-ish, and it still runs like the proverbial raped ape, thank you very much. I did the same thing we did with it that Saturday - 4,000 rpm, full-throttle loaded runs out of 2nd and 3rd. It's strong as an ox and, with those silly silencers out of the Akras, I'm sure I saved a coupla dozen lives.

To Tangai's (indirect) request, I made certain to note gps trip odometer readings at fill-ups yesterday, and calculated mileage: 185 miles on 4.5 gallons = 41.1 mpg. I can't claim that my riding style reflects a concern for fuel mileage, so I'm sure it could do better, but I was too busy wringing it's neck and doing wheelies to care. I doubt that qualifies as "comprehensive," but it's enough for me to be satisfied. As for "how it runs" - again, I'm not certain what you're looking for, but there's no doubt the mid-range and top-end are significantly stronger. The thing just rips.


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Also, when I installed the filter on this bike I noticed what could be a potential issue. I can't say for sure as I've put these on several bikes with no fit problems, they've always been tight. There's also lots of folks who've made their own with the same grommets who've not ever reported a fit issue. This bike is the first early production version (2003) and has been through a lot... rebuilt several times.
When I went to put the velocity stacks on, they didn't tighten down enough. The plate was a tiny bit loose. The bottoms of the stacks were warped and it had a BMC filter in there which seemed a but thicker than normal, maybe its stretched the plastic mounts. Regardless, I shoved in another gasket under the filter plate to make it work.
If any of you encounter a similar issue, let me know. While I think its an isolated problem, I can't say for sure. All the filter plates up till yesterday fit nice and tight... I can rush out a filler gaskets and include them with subsequent kits if this is a problem.
I haven't had it apart again since our tuning day, and I'm confident our creative gasketing is holding up well, but I may order new stacks and have them on hand for the jetting swap at the Rendezvous.


In conclusion, I'm a huge fan of Sporting Wood's filter dealio. The factory airbox is a nightmare and a PITA. This arrangement simplifies things dramatically, and there's no doubt the performance gains.


Thanks again, mang. I feel like I've got my bike back!
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Old 04-27-2013, 04:57 PM   #101
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Have you ever known a freer-breathing engine to get poorer fuel economy?





He is I and I am him. I made it up Mt. Mitchell, along the BRP yesterday - 6,500'-ish, and it still runs like the proverbial raped ape, thank you very much. I did the same thing we did with it that Saturday - 4,000 rpm, full-throttle loaded runs out of 2nd and 3rd. It's strong as an ox and, with those silly silencers out of the Akras, I'm sure I saved a coupla dozen lives.

To Tangai's (indirect) request, I made certain to note gps trip odometer readings at fill-ups yesterday, and calculated mileage: 185 miles on 4.5 gallons = 41.1 mpg. I can't claim that my riding style reflects a concern for fuel mileage, so I'm sure it could do better, but I was too busy wringing it's neck and doing wheelies to care. I doubt that qualifies as "comprehensive," but it's enough for me to be satisfied. As for "how it runs" - again, I'm not certain what you're looking for, but there's no doubt the mid-range and top-end are significantly stronger. The thing just rips.




I haven't had it apart again since our tuning day, and I'm confident our creative gasketing is holding up well, but I may order new stacks and have them on hand for the jetting swap at the Rendezvous.


In conclusion, I'm a huge fan of Sporting Wood's filter dealio. The factory airbox is a nightmare and a PITA. This arrangement simplifies things dramatically, and there's no doubt the performance gains.


Thanks again, mang. I feel like I've got my bike back!
When your driving around where you normally drive around, whats your elevation? (as in when your not going up a mountain?)

Maybe i missed that somewhere?
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:57 PM   #102
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Could you share your full setup?

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Have you ever known a freer-breathing engine to get poorer fuel economy?





He is I and I am him. I made it up Mt. Mitchell, along the BRP yesterday - 6,500'-ish, and it still runs like the proverbial raped ape, thank you very much. I did the same thing we did with it that Saturday - 4,000 rpm, full-throttle loaded runs out of 2nd and 3rd. It's strong as an ox and, with those silly silencers out of the Akras, I'm sure I saved a coupla dozen lives.
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:15 PM   #103
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Got mine completed today and took her for a test ride. Idle and bottom end feel great and top end feels like it has more power (butt feel). I have some tuning to do as i can tell she is leaner in the mid-range and pops a little on deceleration. I figured i was lean starting out, so this is expected. I wanted to tune her from lean to rich instead of vice versa. Gotta love the flex jet setup as i can stop on side of the road an in seconds adjust.

I am going to ride her for a week or so before changing mains to get a good feel for where i am at.

You can sure hear the bike breath now when you roll into the throttle.

I also added crankcase and carb vent filters to my setup.

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Old 05-01-2013, 04:09 PM   #104
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When your driving around where you normally drive around, whats your elevation? (as in when your not going up a mountain?)

Maybe i missed that somewhere?
I'm generally in the neighborhood of 1,000 feet around home.

How 'bout you?


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Old 05-01-2013, 04:59 PM   #105
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Any chance you'll make a plate up for the 990's?
Any news a 990/FI setup?

Isn't the difference between the 950 airbox and a 990's, the addition of an air intake temperature sensor mounting point and a crankcase vent mounting point?
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