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Old 03-29-2013, 04:51 PM   #46
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I sat in a new Morgan 3 wheeler today and a Birkin "Caterham clone"- I am a bit -umm- tall for the Morgan. But, The newest ones have a pedalbox that moves back a bit more. The Birkin had a 210HP Duratec - I bet the think flys. It felt good but wasn't finished nearly as nice as the Morgan. Morgan would probably hold value longer? The wait time is approx. 14 months. Should I pull the trigger?

My Caterham has a 200 hp zetec motor - basically the motor out of the european ford focus SVT from a few years ago -- that power level is the sweet spot. A 210 hp duratec would be perfect.

My recommendation would be to get a used Caterham -- not a birkin, ultralyte, flying miata or any of the other lotus 7 copies -- they hold there value better and you won't lose much or any money when you sell it later. The morgan is sweet, and I'd like to have one also, but that is more of a low speed cruiser and I'd get bored of that sooner than having a car you can really wring out. And even if you don't think you want to do track days, you should, at least once.

And who wants to wait 14 months - your in the midlife crisis now - might as well be enjoying the car for the next year and not waiting for the morgan.
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:37 PM   #47
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I like your choices - I have a lotus exige and a Caterham superlight. Those are both amazing cars and are perhaps the best handling cars you can buy- but they are a tight fit and not super comfortable. Getting in and out can be an act of human origami. If you want a performance car these would be great options. If your looking more for a fun car to leisurely cruise around in then the Morgan would be a cool car ( a morgan plus 8 would be even better). I really like the Caterham - nobody but car geeks know what it is, it has scenery blurring performance and always puts a smile on my face. If you have specific questions about the cars just ask or shoot me a pm - I'm pretty familiar with the lotus and Caterham offerings.

+1, I had a 7 Series back in the late 60's. Very exciting car if it fits. Razor sharp.
An XKE would be pretty cool too, throw in a mistress and you've got the whole mid-life fix dialed in.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:30 PM   #48
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Did not know that. You win. My car sucks, and I hearby withdraw my suggestion regarding the BRZ.


Gotta go, it's shopping nite at the mall with the girlfriends!
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:45 PM   #49
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Did not know that. You win. My car sucks, and I hearby withdraw my suggestion regarding the BRZ.


Gotta go, it's shopping nite at the mall with the girlfriends!
The BRZ doesn't suck. It looks like a lot of fun but also far too practical for this purpose, I think. It seats four people, it has a warranty, the manufacturer is still in business and has a large dealer network, and its home country isn't the butt of jokes about the quality of the vehicle electrics.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:50 PM   #50
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My Caterham has a 200 hp zetec motor - basically the motor out of the european ford focus SVT from a few years ago -- that power level is the sweet spot. A 210 hp duratec would be perfect.

My recommendation would be to get a used Caterham -- not a birkin, ultralyte, flying miata or any of the other lotus 7 copies -- they hold there value better and you won't lose much or any money when you sell it later. The morgan is sweet, and I'd like to have one also, but that is more of a low speed cruiser and I'd get bored of that sooner than having a car you can really wring out. And even if you don't think you want to do track days, you should, at least once.

And who wants to wait 14 months - your in the midlife crisis now - might as well be enjoying the car for the next year and not waiting for the morgan.
Dave, was it you that posted the picture of the light orange caterham with a luggage rack at some point in the past? I remember that picture, and I think it was owned by some inmate, and I was thinking it should be posted again for the enlightenment of the person that doesn't think a caterham would be aesthetically pleasing.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:06 PM   #51
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:48 AM   #52
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Just a quick glance through the Dupont Registry is all you need to get the imagination flowing.

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...itemid=1570329

An 04 Maserati GT....If I remember correctly it has the Ferrari V8 in it. You wouldn't see one of those daily.
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Old 03-30-2013, 06:35 AM   #53
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An 04 Maserati GT....If I remember correctly it has the Ferrari V8 in it. You wouldn't see one of those daily.

Ford probe looks and Ferrari maintenance prices - a bad combo
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Old 03-30-2013, 06:50 AM   #54
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Mazda Speed 3

Easy to get over 300 horses. Handles like a go kart. Easy to work on. You can still carry more than your own ass.

Get something 09 or older and no scoop on the hood = true sleeper.

My current mid life car.

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Old 03-30-2013, 07:30 AM   #55
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Mazda Speed 3

Easy to get over 300 horses. Handles like a go kart. Easy to work on. You can still carry more than your own ass.

Get something 09 or older and no scoop on the hood = true sleeper.

My current mid life car.

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This is a horrible suggestion on every count. He said mid life crisis. Have you ever seen how stupid a FWD burnout looks? Also - he is going to throw a disk if he tries getting under the car to work on it. As for carrying capacity, this guy wants to leave the wife and kids at home. One passenger seat is reserved for mistress/escort duty, and then, inevitably for his teenage son to receive pedantic life lectures about not making the same mistakes as Dad did, which he'll do on exactly two Saturday afternoons per month when he drives him back to mom.

Back seats and a hatchback, are you fucking crazy? Only if she gets the house, in which you might need space for your sleeping bag until you find a cheap condo.

Also, a sleeper is not a mid-life crisis car. A mid life crisis car wants to call attention to itself. It doesn't just need to be fast, it needs to look fast. It needs to be a statement.

Ferrari was a good suggestion. But if you must be sensible, get an S2000.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:38 AM   #56
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I would go for the Morgan, but don't rule out a four wheeled Morgan, second hand of course unless you want to wait.

+1 on this one. Have driven a Lotus Super Seven, boss used to have one. It was weird for me to sit over the back wheels and have this long front end to steer. How about a Cobra?
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:46 AM   #57
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Get over the uniqueness and drive one.

Off your list, I like the jdiaz suggestion.
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Off your list, I like the jdiaz suggestion.

My wife is slowly warming to the idea of a 500HP station wagon while dealing with Kentucky hillbillies on I-65 today.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Both Mazda/ Miata/3 suggestions do not fit my criteria (appreciate the thought). Had an S2000 - zzzzz - it was boring - entertaining the first month I had it only - sorry to say. My brother has a 2010 M3 (the motor!) but, just another BMW on the road. The BRZ suggestion - really? I saw 4 of them yesterday alone - all in a Walmart parking lot! maybe a large concentration in the DC area? I am sure they have great driving characteristics but um, no character. In 4 years there will be as many as there are Miatas. Oh, an LS1 powered Miata would be entertaining. Cobra replica, yeah that would be sweet. The Ferrari piqued my interest - but I heard maintenance can be as much as the car and I would feel like a cheezy porn star (why I do not look at Corvettes, Camaros, Mustangs) I like all of these cars (I am a motorhead) but they just aren't doing it for me. The Ariel Atom - too much $$$ in my mind. For the $ conscientious people - Just because I can buy a McLaren doesn't mean I will buy one - that's why I have the disposable income now. get my drift? So, it is either a Morgan 3 wheeler (keep coming back to this) or a used Caterham probably a Roadsport rather than a R300/R400. OK, now just talk me out of it. Or, on second thought. I already have a classic mini cooper maybe get another cooper and do a Honda conversion or Bike engine?
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My wife is slowly warming to the idea of a 500HP station wagon while dealing with Kentucky hillbillies on I-65 today.
If only I could coerce my wife into driving one. I, unfortunately must have a truck.
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