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Old 03-31-2013, 04:55 PM   #16
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Pedro will win while managing a 4 sec lead
Only if Honda have finally worked out that bikes need longitudinal damping ...

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Old 04-01-2013, 12:17 AM   #17
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Pedro will win while managing a 4 sec lead
then JLo with Rossi a full second back.
MM will be another 2 sec back with Cal up his exhaust.

They will mix it up just a bit in the first three laps with order sorted by lap 4. JLo will try and pass Pedro at mid point but then Pedro will clear out while JLo dials it down a notch after a couple of moments.

Rossi will start poorly but work his way to third quickly.

MM start in second but slip back as the pace quickens.

Nicky will have a gritty performance ending in 7th behind Dovi.

Spies will retire with electrical problems. Or tire problems. Or suspension problems. Or...

Interesting observations, and quoted for posterity.
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:45 AM   #18
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Yeah Pedro&Honda desperately need to find something... only 6 wins from last 8 races, and right there in the sharp end in every winter test as well
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:14 AM   #19
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i beleive Honda has started with a very good bike this year
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Old 04-01-2013, 02:34 AM   #20
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Lorenzo/Yamaha surely won many races in first half of -12....

but actually I was quite surprised, that I just checked the stats, and he won just ONE race after Mugello (when was that, June? July?) And even that only one race Jorge won after Italy, was when Pedro got first screwed by his team, and then T-boned by another rider. But Jorge was 2nd almost every time, when Pedro won, that brought him the title.

edit. Mugello was mid-July, almost four months before the last race.

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Old 04-01-2013, 10:18 AM   #21
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Yeah Pedro&Honda desperately need to find something... only 6 wins from last 8 races, and right there in the sharp end in every winter test as well
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i beleive Honda has started with a very good bike this year
I think Honda's downfall last year was the trouble they had making the new front tire work. If they had concentrated on making it work earlier on, Casey or Dani would be the current WC. JMHO.

I am very curious to see how Marc does. I am curious to see how Valentino fares, also. I think he will have his hands full fending off both Marc and Cal. My gut says it won't be long before Marc is a threat to win every race. I will be very impressed if Rossi is able to muster some of the old magic to finish higher than 3rd.

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Old 04-01-2013, 10:29 AM   #22
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Rossi's still the most experienced of all the top riders. And with the greatest success by far. He does face a giant task, if he is to take that 10th championship, but THAT's what he is there for. Not there to ride around for 2nd place behind Jorge, or anyone else for that matter. "Warm and friendly" relations between these two are going to be interesting to watch... I predict it'll be something like Senna & Prost in F1 a good while ago
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:04 AM   #23
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Rossi's still the most experienced of all the top riders. And with the greatest success by far. He does face a giant task, if he is to take that 10th championship, but THAT's what he is there for. Not there to ride around for 2nd place behind Jorge, or anyone else for that matter. "Warm and friendly" relations between these two are going to be interesting to watch... I predict it'll be something like Senna & Prost in F1 a good while ago
That is why I am curious to see if he still has it.
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:03 PM   #24
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I think Honda's downfall last year was the trouble they had making the new front tire work. If they had concentrated on making it work earlier on, Casey or Dani would be the current WC.
I think they did everything they could given that the new tire was imposed at Round 6. I'd blame it more on Bridgestone than Honda.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:28 PM   #25
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I think they did everything they could given that the new tire was imposed at Round 6. I'd blame it more on Bridgestone than Honda.
It was available for testing from early on and everyone else made it work? Either way, it was their downfall last season.
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It was available for testing from early on and everyone else made it work? Either way, it was their downfall last season.
Pedrosa and Stoner had chatter issues from the start of 2012, and the "optional" tire made it worse, so why would they make their title challenge harder by using a tire which didn't work as well? There was no warning from Bridgestone till the last minute that the optional tire was going to be the only one offered, a move Pedrosa called "dictatorial."

Honda immediately started working on making changes, but as Nakamoto said, "I've said it before, but because we can't do full tests during the season, it's not possible to make big modifications to the frame." If this was the Honda of 2007 or 2008, they probably would have just made minor adjustments and left it at that, but I think they've learned the hard way that they can't expect a rider to make up for major deficits in the chassis.
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Old 04-02-2013, 11:11 AM   #27
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I figure Pedrosa, Lorenzo and Marquez will make up the podium, though the exact order is unclear in my crystal ball.

Should be a good scrap for the next 3-4 positions, with Rossi mixing it up with the satellite Hondas and Yamahas.

I don't foresee Ducati making it into the top seven, and three of the four will likely finish behind the top placed CRT.

Time for a nap now, as all this prognostication has worn me out.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:29 PM   #28
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Conventional wisdom says the results of Qatar aren't strongly indicative of anything, being a night race, etc.

Last year's Qatar podium was also the order they finished in the standings.

Just sayin.
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