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Old 11-03-2013, 06:13 PM   #1
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Xl 600 R 1984 Supermoto/cafe

Hi every one!

It's my fisrt post even tho I have read for a ridiculous amount of hours on this forum.

Alright so a few weeks ago I saw this

And I knew It was going to be my next built!

A couple of days later I found a wrecked xl600r 1984 with papers.It will need an inspection to be back on the road but what the heck!

It works but really badly...
It will start after 30 and a half kick and will then die as soon as you give a little to much gas????
It certenly ad an accident since the tank as a nice bent on the left side and the handle bar is badly twisted. The kicker gets stuck in the peg every single times you kick it... and the subframe at one point was cut in two pieces and then horribly welded together.

So It needs a lot of work and a good amount of money to be back on track.
Where I live(montreal canada) It is already to cold to ride so i have all winter to make her a beaty.

So I started to strip everything off


1. already found a xr 650 L swing arm that I plan on installing next week.
I will need to find a decent wheel or hub for it

2. keeping the front forks but will definitly relace with a 18'' or 19'' wheel

3.I plan on keeping it as simple as it can be with a pair of these

4.As for the welding a good friend of mine who happens to be a welder whants to help me out! He told me that it would be a no brainer to repair the poor welding.


5.A big part of the style of the bike is in the tank...I found out that it was a cg125 1980 sumting?
They where never sold in north america so they are impossible to find...

6.After a lot of research I found that

A 1970 sumting xl175 tank!
Appears to be the most stylish and easiest tank to fit on that bike...Lets hope I am right!

I ordered tons of goodies from Dime city So I will keep you guys posted!

Alexis

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Old 11-03-2013, 06:26 PM   #2
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I'm in, looks like a fun project.
(bigger pictures, please.)
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Old 11-06-2013, 03:16 PM   #3
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Keep us posted! My 83 XL600R is waiting to be converted to a "retro-motard" much like you're doing. Mine runs good for a $200 bucket project (complete bike in a bucket). I have maybe $500 in it and have ridden it off road only for the past few years before getting my DRZ400E.

I got another 17" rear wheel I plan to spoke up onto the stock front hub, and run 17" bias-ply sport bike rubber front and rear. But like you I want to use some style of 70's vintage fuel tank. Here is what my $200 thumper looked like after I got it assembled and running, the paint was my idea to mimic the Elsinore style:
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Old 11-06-2013, 03:22 PM   #4
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You really should have wider rims for the 17's. 3 1/2" front , 4 1/4" rear. Do they still even make bias-ply street tires?
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Old 11-06-2013, 04:30 PM   #5
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dig the project...

(and yeah; there's a lot of new of bias ply tires, still in production)
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Old 11-06-2013, 04:34 PM   #6
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(and yeah; there's a lot of new of bias ply tires, still in production)
Can't think of a reason why.
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:36 PM   #7
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Hey guy's sorry nothing is moving for the moment...I am waiting for the tank that should arrive next week.
I will start by fitting the tank and then design the bike by following the tank lines.

Right now my biggest concern are the wheels...I did a budget and the most expensive thing on the list are definitly the wheels...
I need to find a hub or cheap xr 650 L rear wheel and a rim to lace the front one.If anibody knows where this can be find for a reasonable amount of money let me know!
I was thinking of 18'' on the rear and 19'' up front to keep the retro lines.

Here are a couple of link to some inspiration for the bike

http://www.66motorcycles.com/pages/x

http://www.caferacerdreams.com.es/mo...0-crd-19-apolo

Love those two bike!!

Ho and by the way I you are looking for a retro style tank for the xl or xr look at small cc bikes otherwise nothing will fit!
The particular model I know fits from searching the web are early 1980 xl500 1970 xl175 and 1980 cg 125

I will keep you guys posted when I receive the tank!

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Old 11-06-2013, 06:43 PM   #8
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The tunnel of the tank has to be wide enough to fit over the backbone/oil tank of the frame with clearance so the gas doesn't boil.
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:48 PM   #9
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The tunnel of the tank has to be wide enough to fit over the backbone/oil tank of the frame.
I could not say it in better word than yours!!
The three tank I named up there fits those specs! A least on paper...
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:09 AM   #10
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Keep us posted! My 83 XL600R is waiting to be converted to a "retro-motard" much like you're doing. Mine runs good for a $200 bucket project (complete bike in a bucket). I have maybe $500 in it and have ridden it off road only for the past few years before getting my DRZ400E.

I got another 17" rear wheel I plan to spoke up onto the stock front hub, and run 17" bias-ply sport bike rubber front and rear. But like you I want to use some style of 70's vintage fuel tank. Here is what my $200 thumper looked like after I got it assembled and running, the paint was my idea to mimic the Elsinore style:
Nice job on that xl 600 r!
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:39 AM   #11
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:03 PM   #12
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I did that already, in a way. I got the bike with the engine in a bucket. The kid I bought it from said it bent a valve. Saw it, yup, bent. Bought the bike, got new intake valves. I assumed the kid over-revved it.

Went together real easy, too easy in fact as the cam chain was very easy to install over the sprocket (shoulda been my clue!). Got it running, adjusted valves, etc. First time I really hit it, 2nd gear, climbing a hill, suddenly "WONK" and stopped!. Couldn't kick it over. I eventually got it loose but it wouldn't start/run. Back home, tore into it. Did a leak down test and had massive air flow pumping out the intake. Aha! Failed intake valves.

Tore it down, both intake valves bent, top of the piston nicked. New valves (guides ok), new cam chain, new sprockets, new chain guides. Tensioner ok. Back together and fired right up. Live and learn.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:59 PM   #13
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I'm in, looks like a fun project.
(bigger pictures, please.)
Better?
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:27 PM   #14
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Did figure out why the valves bent?
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:14 AM   #15
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This is an Ascot I built for 500 Singles at WSMC

regulations said you have to use OEM tank and seat. I used the seat frame and regs say any cover can be used.





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