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Old 04-02-2013, 01:30 PM   #31
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Hell, if a girl can do it...

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That ummm...chick, could bench press a bus.

Back to layin' 'er down , and goofball MSF Instructors (I ain't buying that, but maybe there are or were lower standards at one time). The issue I see was putting it down to not having ABS. The issue , in my opinion, was that he didn't use the front brake, and he had very poor riding skills, which makes me suspicious about the MSF instructor claims. Again , in my opinion, you can't rely on ABS braking or any other electronic aids to make up for a lack of skills.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:36 PM   #32
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Finally....an angle that makes an R1200ST look good.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:44 PM   #33
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Where is DAKEZ when we need him? He could explain this "lay 'er down"
technique to us.

AHHH NO! I have to teach these feet forward types to use their front brakes. I ask them if rubber has more traction than steel while sliding across the pavement?

I am like the OP, in that when one of them tells me how they crashed to avoid the crash I call them out on it so that hopefully they will do better the next time.

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Old 04-02-2013, 01:46 PM   #34
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yeah, I can't believe mfgs still leave the front brake on bikes after all the mayhem they've created.

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Old 04-02-2013, 02:40 PM   #35
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That ummm...chick, could bench press a bus.

Back to layin' 'er down , and goofball MSF Instructors (I ain't buying that, but maybe there are or were lower standards at one time). The issue I see was putting it down to not having ABS. The issue , in my opinion, was that he didn't use the front brake, and he had very poor riding skills, which makes me suspicious about the MSF instructor claims. Again , in my opinion, you can't rely on ABS braking or any other electronic aids to make up for a lack of skills.
That is my ex. You could say she is twice the woman my wife is, and I am pretty happy about that!

None the less, she is about 5'8", so no giant.

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Old 04-02-2013, 02:41 PM   #36
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Finally....an angle that makes an R1200ST look good.


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Old 04-02-2013, 03:35 PM   #37
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Hell, if a girl can do it...

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No fair!! It were a-resting on them oil-cooler thingamabobs stickin' out the side...

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Old 04-02-2013, 04:57 PM   #38
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That ummm...chick, could bench press a bus.

Back to layin' 'er down , and goofball MSF Instructors (I ain't buying that, but maybe there are or were lower standards at one time). The issue I see was putting it down to not having ABS. The issue , in my opinion, was that he didn't use the front brake, and he had very poor riding skills, which makes me suspicious about the MSF instructor claims. Again , in my opinion, you can't rely on ABS braking or any other electronic aids to make up for a lack of skills.
There you go, my thoughts exactly.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:21 PM   #39
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Some of the best riders I know are riding Harley Davidson motorcycles.



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Old 04-02-2013, 05:27 PM   #40
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Some of the best riders I know are riding Harley Davidson motorcycles.
Same here ... but I've come across some pretty useless riders too - Usually returning riders seduced by the H-D image.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:28 PM   #41
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For the record, if he wound up under the bike, there probably wasn't a high side. Not in the sense that most who have experienced them would call it. You have to get the bike really sideways under braking, not a couple of inches out of line but nearly 90 degrees to the direction of travel and then you will go away off the forward side of the bike, obviating the chance to wind up under it. For clarity, rear wheel kicks out to the right, rider releases brake and the bike attempts to right itself but keeps its angle of attack. Rider winds up leading the bike down the road.
Bike high sided hit on left, rotated and flipped to land on the right side. Badly damaged on BOTH sides. Beats me how he remained on it, but he said he did. He may be wrong. He was vague on just how he ended up, but the damage is major on BOTH sides.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:30 PM   #42
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Is the double negative deliberate? It's delightfully ironic!
Yeah, it's really a saying you see many times on tee shirts, etc. worn at H-D rallies.

I guess if you are riding Harley, you are riding shit.

I do like Harleys in general, but think some of the, ahem, culture is utterly bogus. Too bad the culture is so mixed up with the bikes themselves because the bikes are neat, IMO.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:35 PM   #43
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I'm with you on that!

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Hells yeah, don't bail until every option is exhausted!!!
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:45 PM   #44
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Plenty of HD riders are not into the "outlaw biker" culture. I seen some cops on HDs that could really ride. I've also seen some ATGATT types take big GS's offroad thinking they could ride them like an XT 250 and hurt themselves.


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Old 04-02-2013, 06:07 PM   #45
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I had a 67 Montesa that was used for dirt riding and a occasional race The track was muddy with standing water and I failed to choose the right line, I layed her down in a large mud puddle pulled in the compression release keep it running, got up with it found 1st gear and took off throwing mud on the people who threw beer bottles and laughed as the fall happened.
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