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Old 04-06-2013, 11:38 AM   #16
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Will that fit on a GS rim?
See page 3 of the thread mentioned in Post #3 above. It fits. Patta went from Great Britain to Korea on a single tire. You could PM him directly if you got questions. Here's what it looked like after crossing Asia--



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Old 04-06-2013, 11:44 AM   #17
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Thats not a bad price.Might try one when I wear out my Tourance..Still heading to Salem I take it..I'll see you in september..
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:11 PM   #18
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Thats not a bad price.Might try one when I wear out my Tourance..Still heading to Salem I take it..I'll see you in september..
Yeah, the trip out is epic. 5199 miles from Vermont to Salem via the scenic route. Haven't figured out yet all the things I want to see on the way back.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:12 AM   #19
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Yeah it sounds like a great trip.Barley going to handle the heat better. that run will tell how good your tires are.lesson learned last year in Missouri...Make it a safe trip.You in the area you have a place to stay,cold beer included.....
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:43 PM   #20
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Avon Sidecar Triple Duty??
In normal situations the tyre will go off before the tread face wears out.

If you are thinking one of these, then I'd suggest you look at the Avon Speedmaster MkII REAR tyre. In the conditions that I've been using my sidecars, the Speedmaster was a better tyre, and had very long life.

I wore a Tourance out in a few 000 km. TKC80 lasted about the same as the Tourance, but it was second hand to start with.

Got a Mitas EO? that I just put on it but it's not turned a wheel in anger yet.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:21 AM   #21
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Avon Sidecar Triple Duty??
In normal situations the tyre will go off before the tread face wears out.

If you are thinking one of these, then I'd suggest you look at the Avon Speedmaster MkII REAR tyre. In the conditions that I've been using my sidecars, the Speedmaster was a better tyre, and had very long life.

I wore a Tourance out in a few 000 km. TKC80 lasted about the same as the Tourance, but it was second hand to start with.

Got a Mitas EO? that I just put on it but it's not turned a wheel in anger yet.
That's not a Triple Duty. It's a Avon Safety Mileage 400-19. Ever tried one of those?
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:32 AM   #22
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The 4.00x19 K37 from Heidenau might be a possibility. Its roughly a 100/100-19 in metric sizing. Ural hack riders are getting great mileage out of them on both the front and the rear. The lug is a bit more aggressive than most but it holds up well.

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Old 04-12-2013, 10:08 AM   #23
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The 4.00x19 K37 from Heidenau might be a possibility. Its roughly a 100/100-19 in metric sizing. Ural hack riders are getting great mileage out of them on both the front and the rear. The lug is a bit more aggressive than most but it holds up well.
That looks cool!

Would somebody please be the test mule and mount one up on 2.5x19 BMW tubeless GS rim then thrash it for a couple of thousand miles and report back as to whether it holds the bead?

Unless somebody knows somebody who's already done this?
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:26 AM   #24
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These are a tube type tire so that might be a deal breaker for those of you not wanting to run a tube. I plan to run one of these on the front of a Guzzi rig I am building, but first I have to re-lace the front from a 21 to a 19. That and I also have to get the rig put together.

These tires have a flatter tread profile and work well for sidecar duty.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:52 AM   #25
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That looks cool!

Would somebody please be the test mule and mount one up on 2.5x19 BMW tubeless GS rim then thrash it for a couple of thousand miles and report back as to whether it holds the bead?

Unless somebody knows somebody who's already done this?
Pretty sure Acerph had one on the front of his rig. From memory, it may interfere with the front GS mudguard due to the taller profile.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:17 PM   #26
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Pretty sure Acerph had one on the front of his rig. From memory, it may interfere with the front GS mudguard due to the taller profile.
Oh yeah, I remember that. He took it to Alaska with his daughter. Was it the K37? Let me go find that post.

Here it is--

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I ran a Heidenau on the front for the Alcan trip. W/ a passenger & some aggressive riding, it was toast at 4k miles. Probably could have gotten a thousand more before it was really bald.

I currently have ~4200 miles on the one I put on in Alaska & it's still pretty good. Looks like maybe 6000 miles before needing to be replaced.

The hassle is mounting a tube tire on the tubeless rim.

OK--found a pic. Looks like the K37 alright--




So I guess once you get it on it DOES hold the bead, but it doesn't last. Boo! My Heidi K60 lasted for 8000 miles. It's nice and square though isn't it?
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:43 PM   #27
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Seeking a little more surface contact, I decided to give the "Avon Triple Duty" front tire a go.
The deep tread picks up a shit load of rock on back roads. My tire / fender clearance is tight so I'm constantly "grinding" rocks between the tire & fender when they come loose.



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I've ran about 3000 miles on the tire and still have a lot of tread left. Should get 4500 - 5000 miles out of it I think.

I installed a Metzler K-block on the rear but ate it up quickly. Going back to cheap conventional tires when these are gone. The high dollar brand tires never last any longer than the cheaper ones so what's the point. I'm lucky to get 3000 miles out of any brand back tire I've installed.

The Heidenau's look awesome, but I spend more time on pavement so they'd be a little rough.
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