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Old 04-04-2013, 03:11 PM   #1
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I need some Inmate Input...

... so, my Concours14 is paid off in one more payment.



I absolutely love the bike, but over the years, my body can't handle the riding posture any more.

Wife and I took a 300+ mile ride before winter, and it took a good couple of days to recoup. My knees were killing me.

My wife loves to do long trips, and we're planning a ride up to Canada over the summer.

Here's my question for the class.

Do I work on doing something about my knees (joint medicine, taking ibuprofen before a ride, etc.) or do I look at selling Connie, and getting a new ride?

With the bike paid off, I could turn around and get a new one where my legs could stretch out more. I'm thinking that would let me do longer days my wife loves to do.

Currently, I'm looking at the Yamaha Raider. I sat on one at the dealership, and my legs stretch out quite nicely. It's not a bad looking bike, either.





It's a far cry from what I'm used to tho.

Thoughts?
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Old 04-04-2013, 03:22 PM   #2
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I personally can't ride cruisers for very long - I get sore back, ass, shoulders, neck and everything. But then that's maybe just me because I ride too fast and end up hanging off like a damned ape in the wind blast?

If you love the bike why not try something simple first? Should be a way to lower the pegs and add some kind of cushion to the seat. Might a small but crucial difference.
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Old 04-04-2013, 03:27 PM   #3
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I personally can't ride cruisers for very long - I get sore back, ass, shoulders, neck and everything. But then that's maybe just me because I ride too fast and end up hanging off like a damned ape in the wind blast?

If you love the bike why not try something simple first? Should be a way to lower the pegs and add some kind of cushion to the seat. Might a small but crucial difference.
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Old 04-04-2013, 04:15 PM   #4
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Depends on why your knees are killing you.
You could have simple issues like an imbalance between your posterior chain (back to hamstring) muscles and your muscles that straighten your legs. Could be a mechanical joint problem. Could be a lot of things.
I'd go to a sportsmed specialist and get my knees checked out, since you may need to head something off at the pass more than you need to buy a new bike.
(I'm a Physical Therapy student)

I like the Raider a lot, btw. I think it's a beautiful machine.
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:15 PM   #5
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Almost can't believe you are serious about the Raider, unless your wife will not be traveling with you.
The difference between a cruiser and what you have is huge. Not bad, just a really different ride.
One thing you might do is search here and on Connie specific forums for solutions to your ergonomic problems on your existing (nearly paid for bike).
If you are really considering a change to a cruiser style, you should research here and elsewhere. The new Suzuki C90's are pretty nice with an excellent excellent (water cooled) motor, and may still have 0% financing. Try a demo ride on one (any cruiser actually, the more the merrier) with your wife on the back.
Do it soon, we are into spring and good deals will be hard to find.
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:23 PM   #6
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The Raider is a great bike but only for solo. Passenger accommodations are pathetic, not a long trip bike for her, look elsewhere.

Look to a Yamaha Royal Star touring, Kawi Vulcan Nomad, Any slew of big Twin Harleys etc.
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:50 PM   #7
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... so, my Concours14 is paid off in one more payment.



I absolutely love the bike, but over the years, my body can't handle the riding posture any more.

Wife and I took a 300+ mile ride before winter, and it took a good couple of days to recoup. My knees were killing me.

My wife loves to do long trips, and we're planning a ride up to Canada over the summer.

Here's my question for the class.

Do I work on doing something about my knees (joint medicine, taking ibuprofen before a ride, etc.) or do I look at selling Connie, and getting a new ride?

With the bike paid off, I could turn around and get a new one where my legs could stretch out more. I'm thinking that would let me do longer days my wife loves to do.

Currently, I'm looking at the Yamaha Raider. I sat on one at the dealership, and my legs stretch out quite nicely. It's not a bad looking bike, either.





It's a far cry from what I'm used to tho.

Thoughts?
If you are going to buy another bike and have both travel/sporty riding in mind, an adventure tourer will give you more leg room (less knee bend), comfort, decent handling, good passenger accommodations, lots of luggage capacity, and the ability to take the road less traveled if desired.
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:10 PM   #8
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I agree with Bueller. An adventure bike like a Super Tenere or R1200GS would be much more suitable for a long ride than a Raider. If I were you I would ditch the Concours for an R1200RT = great ergos and great wind protection.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:15 PM   #9
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Old guys on the old Connies benefited from bar backs and peg lowering kits. Are those available for the new ones? A guy could save a lot of $$ if those fixed everything.
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:44 PM   #10
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If you like the Raider powertrain, look at a Roadliner/Stratoliner.

The 1854cc air/oil cooled twin is a beast, and the bike overall is built to a very high standard.

I had a Roadliner for about a year and it worked very well and was a blast to ride. The missus even liked it....it could be changed from a 'me' bike to a two-up road eater pretty quickly.

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then I'd throw the back seat and backrest on for an 'us' bike

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Old 04-04-2013, 09:14 PM   #11
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Of the sport touring class, the C14 has a fairly tight bend to the knees, and artifact of it been derived from a sport bike vs more purpose-built ST's. Try an RT or an ST 1300, 'lots more room. If they don't do it for you the big adventure bikes will but being long of leg will help with those.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:56 AM   #12
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Almost can't believe you are serious about the Raider, unless your wife will not be traveling with you.
The difference between a cruiser and what you have is huge. Not bad, just a really different ride.
One thing you might do is search here and on Connie specific forums for solutions to your ergonomic problems on your existing (nearly paid for bike).
If you are really considering a change to a cruiser style, you should research here and elsewhere. The new Suzuki C90's are pretty nice with an excellent excellent (water cooled) motor, and may still have 0% financing. Try a demo ride on one (any cruiser actually, the more the merrier) with your wife on the back.
Do it soon, we are into spring and good deals will be hard to find.
My wife rides her own bike. She has about 75k miles in the last 7 years or so. She is a far better rider than me. She's taught the classes, etc.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:06 AM   #13
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I'm not against the big adventure bikes. Wife isn't a fan of the BMW's, tho. She will let me get the ride I like, but I do know there is issues with the reliability of the GS.

I even had a guy offer me to trade straight across.

I'm pretty sure the pain I get isn't muscular. It hurts in the joint, and goes away after a few hours. I also get it in my wrists because I'm finding myself leaning forward. Again, from the riding posture. I know that bar lifters would help with that. I've had them in the past, and ended up selling them because I didn't like the way I sat on the end.

There is another variable I didn't mention earlier.

I got divorced two years ago. When things got real bad, I'd go out on Connie as an escape. My ex-wife hated motorcycles, and didn't want anything to do with them.

These days, when I go out, every once in a while, I get flashbacks of riding my C14 as an escape. I don't want to be reminded of the past as much as possible. A new ride would definitely take care of that.

Plus, there's the excitement of a new ride. It's been almost 5 years since I've gotten a new bike, so there's that too.

Maybe I'm using my knee pain as an excuse to get a new ride.

Thanks for all the input, guys. A local dealership has one I can take for a spin, so I'll do that and report back.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:54 AM   #14
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My wife rides her own bike. She has about 75k miles in the last 7 years or so. She is a far better rider than me. She's taught the classes, etc.







I wasn't clear on that, thought she'd be on the back.
Since she won't be sitting behind you, get whatever the hell you like!!
I would still look at the big Suzuki, tests say it's pretty good.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:00 AM   #15
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I wasn't clear on that, thought she'd be on the back.
Since she won't be sitting behind you, get whatever the hell you like!!
I would still look at the big Suzuki, tests say it's pretty good.
Yeah, I'm looking at all the Japanese cruisers. I said she will let me get any bike I want, with one exception. No HD.



That's not a big problem.
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