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Old 04-09-2013, 08:27 PM   #1
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GasGas muffler packing/Trials tires

New to the trials scene and have a 05 txt280 pro curious about muffler packing do you use normal packing for two strokes or speacial GasGas packing ? Thanks. And where is the best place to buy Trials tires ?
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:55 AM   #2
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Normal two stroke packing material will work but your dealer will sell you official GG muffler packing material if you want. While you are there get some tires so when you need some parts or advice he will still be in business.
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:44 AM   #3
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New to the trials scene and have a 05 txt280 pro curious about muffler packing do you use normal packing for two strokes or speacial GasGas packing ? Thanks. And where is the best place to buy Trials tires ?
This just happened to been covered on another forum, (JSE John Stoodley, gasgas expert tech) chimed in as well, problem is, was it at gasgas forum on trialscentral.com, or was it on Thumpertalk.com? hmmmm....

Get the loose stuff, dont wrap or pack too tight. most nobody does the "mid" muffler, just in case you were thinking about that too.

05 means you have 4 rivets, small short ones to drill out and replace... it is easy, I usually have to do it every other year, if I keep the bike that long.

as Brewtus would say, "welcome to the dark side..."

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Old 04-10-2013, 09:59 AM   #4
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Here you go

I think I'm going to see you at the Frank Raines event this Saturday. I have a red txt 250 w/ silver Tacoma

http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/...type-silencer/
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:06 PM   #5
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Here you go

I think I'm going to see you at the Frank Raines event this Saturday. I have a red txt 250 w/ silver Tacoma

http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/...type-silencer/
I'll be there this weekend, my first trials event Doing the Sportsman class on Sunday I guess.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:45 PM   #6
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I'll see you guys this weekend at the British-American Cup.

Sting32 mentioned Chinese X-lite clone (Vee Rubber VRM308? tires) imported by GasGas in another forum. Anyone want to chime in on quality compared to a D803? Price from Dale? http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/...-rubber-tyres/

Interesting that the GasGas Eco comes from the factory with Pirelli MT43 tubed tires mounted- now that's a stiff sidewall, so maybe the Vee Rubber may be ok.

Re: Exhaust packing: Silentsport packed loose http://www.ktm-parts.com/mm5/merchan...A#.UWdnlpPvuLE
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:17 AM   #7
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New to the trials scene and have a 05 txt280 pro curious about muffler packing do you use normal packing for two strokes or speacial GasGas packing ? Thanks. And where is the best place to buy Trials tires ?

On a bike that old you will need to repack front and rear mufflers, and I would suggest using caution in regard to selection of tyres, unless you are a play bike rider who doesnt want to compete seriously.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:53 AM   #8
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I run old bald tires most of the time. When I do occasionally throw on a new tire it is for a comp I know will benefit from it, like Ute Cup. Otherwise, riding with limited traction is good practice. We have a lot of sandstone and granite around here, very hard on tires. If you cared about fresh square knobs, you'd go broke. I compensate for worn tires by running very low pressure, just enough that I don't rim knock too bad on splatters and square edges. I use up about 1 tire per year, though I have 4 in the rack of differing levels of wear, and one with pretty good edges I am saving for the National at Hualapai.

The Dunlops are fine. I could tell no difference last time I had a Michelin. Graydog ran a off brand, can't remember which, and it was kinda stiff to my feel, but he was running tubes on his Eco.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:01 AM   #9
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I'll see you guys this weekend at the British-American Cup.

Sting32 mentioned Chinese X-lite clone (Vee Rubber VRM308? tires) imported by GasGas in another forum. Anyone want to chime in on quality compared to a D803? Price from Dale? http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/...-rubber-tyres/

Interesting that the GasGas Eco comes from the factory with Pirelli MT43 tubed tires mounted- now that's a stiff sidewall, so maybe the Vee Rubber may be ok.

Re: Exhaust packing: Silentsport packed loose http://www.ktm-parts.com/mm5/merchan...A#.UWdnlpPvuLE
Gasgas isnt really involved with the tires, Dale likes the tires and they are cheap! I didnt like the grip from the ones I had 3 years ago. I was told last year they changed the "formula" or something. I might have a try with one later this year, since I don't have the money for my true X-lites... IMHO they (even the one I tried 3 or 4 years back) make an outstanding value for amature or any "new to our sport" rider that has bought used bike with crapped out worn tires. IMHO if you see what I was saying.

I have held to same theory for many years, as Derverking, I almost made me a practice rim, but I dont have the 4-500 to do that, with other things I like to do... and I HATE changing tires! I just Hate it, I have to do it, for more than just my bike, but I friggin HATE IT...
But I also find out sometimes practicing without grip, then having grip can throw your timing and balance off.

Well, my swear jar is filling, I might have $ for rear X-lite soon.

(did I mention how much I dislike changing tires?)
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On a bike that old you will need to repack front and rear mufflers, and I would suggest using caution in regard to selection of tyres, unless you are a play bike rider who doesnt want to compete seriously.
**** you (most) don't bother to ever repack the front muffler, it is a tedious job requiring cutting the muffler apart, then except the 02, the muffler is aluminum, and a special welder and skill to operate that welder...
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:06 PM   #11
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Thanks for all the info, I'll repack the rear for now and probably check out the Dunlops.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:42 PM   #12
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It will run a little better if you repack silencer, but will never be as smooth and powerful as it would if you repacked front as well. In most cases alloy front boxes can be repacked without welding. Simply cut a window in the rear part of the exhaust that doesnt show, hook out all the old packing, repack and then cut out a piece of aluminum slightly bigger than the window you have, drill holes to pack pop rivets or riv-nuts, apply high temp silicone sealer round the edges, and then fix your cover piece using whatever method chosen. Dunlops work well for rocky terrain, but not so good for mud, cambers, tree root type sections as very rigid side walls.
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