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Old 04-17-2013, 01:59 PM   #16
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Would any of you drop a grand on a beautiful, functional trailer for your scoot or small displacement motorcycle? If not, what is your price threshold? .
That's kind of a ridonkulous (as my boys would say) question to ask of this crowd. People that spend $1200 for aluminum tool boxes for their GS's; a system that weighs nearly 50 pounds just so they can carry 15 pounds of underwear and coffee inside. People that spend thousands of dollars on fluff and farkles in gps's, electric roll charts, ram mounts, communication gear, riding gear, etc.
So for this crowd a grand is not a problem. But the question I would ask is this; is $1,000 too much for people who tour on scooters. I don't know the answer to that. How many people tour long distance on scooters?
Seems a great opportunity to make and sell an in-town cargo scooter for the Costco runs.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:00 PM   #17
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This is really cool. How much would the hitches cost? If you do go into business, remember to form an LLC to protect your personal assets.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:07 PM   #18
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I don't mind if you post the pics in other forums. Please feel free.

I've thought about starting a business designing and building scooter (and small displacement motorcycle) cargo trailers. I don't know if there's enough interest out there to keep such a company sustainable...because if I'd do it, it would be a full time venture...I have no interest in pursuing it part time. I'm an all-or-nothing kind of guy

I think the bigger issue might be cost. In the age of made-in-China junk, where everything is cheap, cheap, cheap...my trailers might not be viable because of the cost. That's my biggest concern.

In my mind, my trailers are rolling art...I spend a huge amount of time on the aesthetics...(make no mistake, they are equally functional)...but the aesthetics are paramount to me. There's a ton of time an materials that go into each one.

Even if I designed a few standard models and "mass produced" them in small quantities, they'd still be $900 - $1,000...and I wouldn't be buying a Mercedes with the profits...

I recently designed a cost-reduced, open frame scooter cargo trailer that looks cool and could sell for $600 - $700. Not quite as "WOW" as the other ones, but a pretty damn cool trailer in it's own right.

Because my trailers are all one-offs, I've probably got $1,200 - $1,300 tied up in each one in time / materials. As a scooter enthusiast, I have no problem dropping a grand+ on a trailer. I've got myself convinced that I'm the only guy out there that would do that. Anyone care to prove me wrong?...lol...

Would any of you drop a grand on a beautiful, functional trailer for your scoot or small displacement motorcycle? If not, what is your price threshold? I am just looking for ANY reason to start a scooter cargo trailer company...lol...
The factory Rokon trailer is $1000 and is off road only, so yes, some people (myself included) would buy. But you are correct that low volume, custom work isn't going to generate millions in profit.

But as a hobby business, it might work.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:53 PM   #19
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But as a hobby business, it might work.
yes it would......

i do kind of the same thing, though not trailers, or any item specifically. im a mechanic by trade (for now, its taking its toll on my body) but sometimes i get commissioned to build something, a go kart trailer, luggage rack system/panniers, a bicycle sidecar. it doesnt pay the bills, but it gives me something to do while im making it, and puts some money in my pocket for other equipment/tools etc.

so put it out there, offer your services, and see what happens. the work looks good, and i think people would be into it.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:44 PM   #20
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All good points guys!

Not sure how much the hitches would cost...maybe around $75 - $125 depending on the bike. For example, the metropolitan and Vespa hitches were relatively simple. The Honda Ruckus hitch was very elaborate and complicated...so I guess it would depend on the bike.

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Old 04-17-2013, 11:53 PM   #21
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Because my trailers are all one-offs, I've probably got $1,200 - $1,300 tied up in each one in time / materials. As a scooter enthusiast, I have no problem dropping a grand+ on a trailer. I've got myself convinced that I'm the only guy out there that would do that. Anyone care to prove me wrong?...lol...

Would any of you drop a grand on a beautiful, functional trailer for your scoot or small displacement motorcycle? If not, what is your price threshold? I am just looking for ANY reason to start a scooter cargo trailer company...lol...
In answer to Your Question, Hell Yes. I may just buy a ruckus to match the trailer. I want something similiar (With a Longer trailer tongue) So I can haul My Kayak to the Beach, Beautiful setup.
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:55 AM   #22
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This fellow has a nice business going making larger trailers so anything is possible

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=742318
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:56 AM   #23
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A New Art Form and Functional

Trailers are more often than not fairly boring visually and can seriously detract from the imagery of a motorcycle, or sidecar outfit. For me these examples not only look good, but do the job in ways I've not come across, or imagined. Well impressed.

From the point of view of the possibilities for a sidecar appropriate trailer, i.e. two wheeled rather than a monowheel, there'd be hardly no issues on the hitch system, whilst something more than a mere box could be considered.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:10 PM   #24
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Sidecarjohn,

Wow! High praise indeed..."A new art form and functional".

Thank you for the compliment.

I really need to get off my lazy arse (in the UK it's arse...not ass, right?...lol)
and start a scooter cargo trailer company...I've only built three...so I imagine with a little more practice, I could design and build some really beautiful trailers...I've got a million more ideas...

The CRAZY thing is, I don't have a workshop...and barely any tools. The black Metropolitan trailer was LITERALLY built outside on a PICNIC bench with a few hand tools and a rattle-can paint job. NO joke...lol.

I imagine that if I had a fully equipped shop, I could really turn out some beauties.

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Old 06-11-2013, 06:04 PM   #25
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I ran across your post while researching options for
towing a fishing kayak/gear.

You've done some beautiful work.
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:47 AM   #26
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What is the advantage of a single wheel tailer, over a two wheels one?
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Old 06-14-2013, 11:55 AM   #27
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What is the advantage of a single wheel tailer, over a two wheels one?
1 Goes where 2 might not want to:
http://youtu.be/woTLe5wEmRw

Great work tburick!
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:18 AM   #28
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Great work tburick!

Thanks.
Nice video and track!
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:58 AM   #29
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tburick, is the red and white vespa trailer built partly out of a bicycle trailer? The frame looks a lot like one I saw recently. Yours obviously looks like an awesome upgrade.
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:22 PM   #30
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+1

I've been thinking of doing something similar, I started welding at 13, been away from it for a bit, kinda like riding a bike though. I use to make all kinds of small pcs. for my bikes and cars.

I could swing it from a hobby perspective, make good money at my fulltime gig, plus 3 days off a week. It might even keep me out of trouble with the wife.

I usually write down ideas as they come in my nitebook 4 work, gotta write stuff down, gettin old.
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