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Old 04-25-2013, 05:07 PM   #16
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For all you who think a Wee-Strom can't go off road or do a RTW trip.....try googling "travellingstrom".

Richard is a forum member here and on Stromtrooper [and on almost every other bike forum on the web it seems ].

He is an Aussie who regularly travels the world on the Wee, and not just the easy bits.

You will find everything from his own TravellingStrom web page to forum posts and youtube videos.

The Stroms are more capable than many realise.
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Old 04-25-2013, 06:24 PM   #17
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People have done more on a 1962 Harley Davidson (see RTWDoug)
doesn't mean it's a good dirt bike, does it?


I took my DL1000 all sorts of crazy places.
Doesn't mean it was either easy or smart.


I just rode my F650 Dakar 5,300 miles (8833 kms) in 10 days.
Doesn't make it a good touring bike.

I have hit a square edge of a ditch with a V-Strom wheel (on a buddy's 650 when we swapped bikes) and mangled it so bad that it wouldn't hold air. We pounded it back into shape with a rock. and it was hot. Like, Western Desert (your Western Desert) hot. And I was hung over like three outlaws.

And I got to buy him a new wheel.

If anything, this forum shows us that nearly any bike can go nearly anywhere. But there are certainly better and worse bikes for the job.

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Old 04-25-2013, 08:01 PM   #18
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It is hard to have a bike that will do it all well, without maybe spending $20K on a well farkled KTM, but the Strom is good for most everyday riders. I own a 12 DL650 and plan to ride down many dirt fire roads and some ATV trails, but I would never dream of riding this bike on a motocross track, or the equivalent. I was riding out near MOAB a few weeks ago ( in a truck and some on a mountain bike) thinking if my strom could do these trails? A friend on the trip has the same bike and we agree, we would not bring them out to trash it in the back country. Instead, bring out a WR250 or even a DRZ 400 and have someone drive a support vehicle to carry all the gear. It will lighten you up to play.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:07 PM   #19
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I see that the Suzuki V-Strom is a popular bike here. From it's appearance it doesn't look more offroad worthy than other standard style bikes. What makes it good for offroad duty? Please forgive my ignorance.
It's not "good" for offroad duty, but it's a little better than most streetbikes.

- 19" front wheel instead of a smaller diameter.
- A little more suspension travel than most.
- A little more clearance than most.
- A real skid can be mounted easily.
- Crashbars can be mounted.
- The exhaust exits a bit higher, which is better for fording.
- Tuned for more mid-range than screaming.
- Bars that accept real handguards.
- Tires available in DOT knobby sizes.
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:42 AM   #20
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No, it´s not meant for proper off-road. Get a lighter bike for that sort of thing. Any kind of road, no matter how small or poor condition, the V-Strom can usually do, even though its not always the best tool for that job, just a tiny bit better than a streetbike and more easily farkable for that. But on the other hand, it can also cruise comfortably on the big roads, even two-up, and be your everyday commuter. Those are areas, where most “off-road capable” bikes fall a bit short.
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:41 AM   #21
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I see that the Suzuki V-Strom is a popular bike here. From it's appearance it doesn't look more offroad worthy than other standard style bikes. What makes it good for offroad duty? Please forgive my ignorance.
Off Road Worthy?

I don't know about all that. here's what I do know.

Last year I bought a 2012 DL 1000 new off the showroom floor for $8499. I traded an 08 GSX 650F. Current rides, E-Glide Classic and Dl 1000.

Here's why I bought the V-Strom. More and more my rides were "To Places" as opposed to just rides. more and more I would find myself on back roads or facing two miles of gravel road to get to where I wanted to be.

On the GSX I could make it down a gravel road if I had to. It wasn't fun but I could.

With my V, I don't go looking for offroad but if I need to cover a few miles of gravel road? No big deal. Need to ride a few miles down a dirt road or old railroad bed? No big deal.

it still weighs 500 pounds. it's still a little top heavy when the tank is full. The 19" wheel isn't perfect.

On the other hand? A few miles of dirt road to get over the mountain? No big deal. 100 Miles of slab? No big deal. twisty back roads? No big deal.
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:52 AM   #22
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My Wee is not my dirt bike. I have a DRZ400 for that, and it's too heavy etc. My Wee is my ADVenture bike. I would not dream of taking my DRZ on a long road trip, and I wouldn't dream of taking my Wee on rugged rocky single track. Just the wrong tool for the job. However, my DRZ needs to "connect the dots" on off road trails and such, and the Wee needs to get me to backcountry camping and fishing spots. They both do that mission very well, and both are rugged low maint. bikes.

That said, i widh the Wee were better offroad, and I wish the dRZ were better on road. I have thouight about replacing the Wee with a Tiger XC, since I think it would be close to the Wee's ability on road, and close to a KLR's ability offroad. Best compromise i can think of. Oh and maybe replace the dRZ with a 300XCW, (plated of course).
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Old 04-27-2013, 06:21 AM   #23
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My Wee is not my dirt bike. I have a DRZ400 for that, and it's too heavy etc. My Wee is my ADVenture bike. I would not dream of taking my DRZ on a long road trip, and I wouldn't dream of taking my Wee on rugged rocky single track. Just the wrong tool for the job. However, my DRZ needs to "connect the dots" on off road trails and such, and the Wee needs to get me to backcountry camping and fishing spots. They both do that mission very well, and both are rugged low maint. bikes.

That said, i widh the Wee were better offroad, and I wish the dRZ were better on road. I have thouight about replacing the Wee with a Tiger XC, since I think it would be close to the Wee's ability on road, and close to a KLR's ability offroad. Best compromise i can think of. Oh and maybe replace the dRZ with a 300XCW, (plated of course).
And the one bike that does it all well was discontinued



The Kawasaki KLE500
Twin cylinder, six speed, with great road speed and excellent dirt manners, light enough to pick up when dropped, strong enough to carry a load, single track capable.

The only shortcoming these bikes have is the 15 litre fuel tank, but that can be overcome with the addition of a Rotopax or PegPacker jerry can setup.
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Old 04-27-2013, 06:36 AM   #24
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My Wee is not my dirt bike. I have a DRZ400 for that, and it's too heavy etc. My Wee is my ADVenture bike. I would not dream of taking my DRZ on a long road trip, and I wouldn't dream of taking my Wee on rugged rocky single track. Just the wrong tool for the job. However, my DRZ needs to "connect the dots" on off road trails and such, and the Wee needs to get me to backcountry camping and fishing spots. They both do that mission very well, and both are rugged low maint. bikes.

That said, i widh the Wee were better offroad, and I wish the dRZ were better on road. I have thouight about replacing the Wee with a Tiger XC, since I think it would be close to the Wee's ability on road, and close to a KLR's ability offroad. Best compromise i can think of. Oh and maybe replace the dRZ with a 300XCW, (plated of course).

The tiger far surpasses a 'strom on road - have you tried one out? Way better off as well. Just don't ride one unless you're prepared to drop the $$ for one, they're that good. A lot of big KTM and BMW converts in the fold.

A TE630 far surpasses a klr off. On as well. These two were my solution to the 'best tool' conundrum.

That said, the big husky isn't nearly the singletrack machine as the ktm. But you can't plate them here in CA. The lite ktm and husky 4T's are the defacto trail bikes out here.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:43 PM   #25
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I bought a Wee because it can easily handle gravel roads, but will do dirt if needed. It's the wrong tool for real dirt riding, but its possible.

It also is cheap to buy, insure and maintain. They are as reliable as a hammer, have a 19" front wheel for crappy pavement and curbs. Nice tall seat and a peg lowering kit made it easy on my knees. 50 mpg and a big tank makes for few gas stops. A 650 twin is a good compromise for an engine - fast enough to put you in jail but still light, and somewhat nimble.
I did a camping trip last year. 3 guys, 3 Wee Stroms, 2 weeks 4,000 miles. Zero mechanical problems with terrain from fast pavement to silt bogs (it sucks in sand & silt because it isn't a 250 motocrosser). At 8,500 feet with full camping gear it was still accelerating at 80 passing a truck. The worst day riding was Ina huge wind storm; we got passed by guys on 800 pound bikes with full fairings, and they looked a hell of a lot more comfortable and stable than we were.

It isn't the best at anything, but its good enough at most. If you're on any kind of budget, it's hard to beat.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:25 PM   #26
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I bought my (wee)Strom because I wanted an "ADV" bike. I can take street bikes down dirt roadsand gravel roads and the occasional double track but it just wasnt' much fun and was slow going. The Strom isn't quick in the dirt but I don't worry about it as much.

Not to mention it's nice being able to zoom down the interstate at 80+ with no issues then putt down a rutted out double track to a place I would have never taken my F800ST.

Now as stated earlier no matter what the road condition (as long as it's actually a road of some sort even if it's not maintained), it's no big deal just keep on trucking.

I would have never found stuff like this on my F800ST. Would it have been capable of doing so? Yeah the road these pics were taken on wasn't a difficult road to navigate. But simple things like peg and bar position make the Wee (or Vee) so much better suited than my F800 is to tackle such a road in relative comfort. Not to mention tires. On this road I saw no other vehicles. Just me.





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Old 04-28-2013, 10:58 PM   #27
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this older gent took his vstrom over the Macgruder corridor in western Montana / Idaho. Get the bike and just do it! Have fun and live !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r04hb...s8blQEYWfvC0oL
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:26 PM   #28
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My strom has taken me all over the place. I have beaten the piss out of it and it has never skipped a beat. With 40k on it, I expect it to do A LOT more. Do I take it off road, yep. Is it a dirtbike, nope. I also find it is an awesome bike for the city, hopping up curbs, riding down small sets of stairs, dodging pot holes. It is an excellent, go anywhere bike. I have no regrets with it. Eventually I'll have a TE in the garage alongside it.
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:55 AM   #29
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I just picked up a 2006 Vee. I wouldn't dream of taking this on any serious offroad, it's just too damn big, especially with a top box and panniers, and I find it awkward to ride standing up, even with bar risers. Gravel roads....no problem, that's what I bought it for, a two wheeled SUV.

I have a XR250R to play on when I want to hit the trails.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:27 AM   #30
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A 2-wheeled SUV is a good description. I don't know why people even talk about a vstrom being a dirt bike. It weighs almost 500 lbs for crying out loud, and has half the suspension of a dirt bike.

I recently bought a new wee. Spent the last four days riding the Smoky Mtn Rd and down to Toroweap, 2-up, where we camped for a couple days. That was perfectly fine on the wee. A lighter DS bike would have handled the rocks better but not the all-day pavement riding 2-up to get there and back. I just had to pick a line thru the few rocky bits. Last summer I did a 10-day ride on a 250 DS thru Idaho on forest roads and logging roads, including the Lolo Trail and the Macgruder corridor. There was nothing on that ride that the wee couldn't handle.

It's a compromise if you want to cruise slab comfortably with a passenger on the way to some off-pavement riding. But it's definitely no dirt bike. I think the problem is that some people's definition of "off-road" is unpaved roads, while for others it's rocks and sand and trails that are definitely not roads. The wee needs a road of some kind but not a smooth one. Another problem is speed. The limited suspension on the wee means you have to take the rough stuff slow. If you are the type of guy who thinks the throttle is an on-off switch then you won't want a wee.

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