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Old 04-24-2013, 06:49 PM   #1
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:05 PM   #2
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Not surprising

Cycle world came to similar results a couple months ago
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:56 AM   #3
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I rode both the new GS and the KTM in the UK a few weeks ago in the same type of weather and the MCN got their evaluation right.

These two bikes have really advanced what a large dual sport bike can do when compared to the Tenere and the Triumph. The Triumph is truely a disaster on anything other than pavement and the Tenere just can't be considered even in the ball park off road when compared to the new GS and the new KTM.

When back on pavement, the GS and the KTM are best by far there too with the Triumph better than the Tenere, making the Tenere in need of a redesign to be taken serious against the newer bikes.

Anyone who feels this can't be true needs to ride the GS and the KTM. After riding both, no one would say the newer bikes have not jumped way ahead of the Tenere in every way.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:17 AM   #4
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Odd how opinions differ.
I had a Tenere for 18 months. After a test ride on the GS LC today, i'd have the big Yamaha back in a heartbeat.
I could not wait to hand the GS back. Mortally hated it. The bike felt dead. Zero feedback, even for someone who has had 3 telelever bikes.. Haven't had a go on the KTM yet - but hope to before the end of the year.
Booked in for a pop on the new Capo 12 next week. Can't imagine it'll disappoint me like the GS did.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:10 AM   #5
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What really blows my mind is that the Tiger explorer looks like a monstrous dirt bike, yet is terrible off road. Why-oh-why did Triumph missdesign this bike so badly?! I probably would have bought it had it looked like a classy street cruiser traveler bike, which I know triumph is capable of designing, not some behemoth dirt bike impersonator.

Tiger explorer - major appearance/image design fail in my book.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:45 PM   #6
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Hm, maybe not. 99% of these bikes never see more than a gravel driveway. So Triumph gives the look but not the limitations of owning a true big bore adv bike. Far cheaper to develop a road-going look-a-like than a bike competent both on and off road.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:39 PM   #7
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Nice to hear they think the BMW has got the electrics figured out after giving TC and ABS
a bad name for the last few years.

I think I'll hang on to my dated ole Tenere a little longer.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:46 PM   #8
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Stock tires on mud, those guys have guts
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Old 04-25-2013, 04:11 PM   #9
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Tiger explorer - major appearance/image design fail in my book.
I think they have done well in the image / appearance stake. That's all most people need. It's just that if they did a real big traily most people would call it dull and uninspiring on the road. And since most owners like the image but don't live it, that about is where the sweet spot is. Seems the same in the 4 Wheel "off road" market.

Not where I live though. Glad there are KTM's and the S10 right now and I hope they don't all pile into the street end of the deal.
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Old 04-25-2013, 04:54 PM   #10
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MCN liked the German/Austrian bikes.

HUGE surprise...


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Old 04-25-2013, 06:36 PM   #11
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MCN liked the German/Austrian bikes.
Oh, you mean that the British magazine basically said the British Triumph Explorer is rubbish off road? Yeah, huge surprise.
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Old 04-25-2013, 06:40 PM   #12
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More adventure in the first gear of a KLR than all that whiz bang shit put together.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:28 PM   #13
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More adventure in the first gear of a KLR than all that whiz bang shit put together.
Na, not really. Isn't "Adventure" defined as "taking inappropriate gear to far away places"? The Explorer is way more inappropriate than any of the other bikes, especially the KLR. So way more adventure with the Explorer ...
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:25 AM   #14
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I rode both the new GS and the KTM in the UK a few weeks ago in the same type of weather and the MCN got their evaluation right.

These two bikes have really advanced what a large dual sport bike can do when compared to the Tenere and the Triumph. The Triumph is truely a disaster on anything other than pavement and the Tenere just can't be considered even in the ball park off road when compared to the new GS and the new KTM.

When back on pavement, the GS and the KTM are best by far there too with the Triumph better than the Tenere, making the Tenere in need of a redesign to be taken serious against the newer bikes.

Anyone who feels this can't be true needs to ride the GS and the KTM. After riding both, no one would say the newer bikes have not jumped way ahead of the Tenere in every way.
A little FYI on Rick, he's a well-known troll in the S10 threads so take everything he says about the bike with a bucketful of salt.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:58 AM   #15
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A little FYI on Rick, he's a well-known troll in the S10 threads so take everything he says about the bike with a bucketful of salt.
and before he started trolling the S10 threads and bashing it, he did a lot of bashing in GSpot, till they kicked him out of that forum so he can't post there anymore.. his signature line reflects his arrogance and invalidates his self professed "expertise"; clearly the notion of different strokes for different folks can't be true... He's the only person on my Ignore list.
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