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Old 05-21-2013, 08:39 AM   #1
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Just another manic Monday....

Well after over 100K miles of daily commuting in the hell that is Los Angeles it finally happened.

While heading westbound on the 210 freeway I was lane splitting between the carpool and #1 lane. Both lanes were at a crawl so I was going about 15mph.

I always stop splitting when ever there is an entrance into the carpool lane for safety. After getting past the last entrance I am right next to the guy in a BMW who decides to get out of the carpool lane, mine you I was RIGHT NEXT to his passenger door.

Says he never saw me, that because he never looked in my opinion.

I walked/rode away but once again the Pat Walsh crashbars did their job and protected the bike from sustaining any damage at all, I on the other hand got a pretty decent rash on the left knee (abrasion injury from being pinned between the bike at the car).

Tally:

1 pair riding pants, undamaged
1 pair crash bars need replacing - $300 buck

The BMW fared much much worse.








Other than being bumped and bruised I am not going to complain. But I had to drive the truck into work today.

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Old 05-21-2013, 09:31 AM   #2
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That's pretty cool that the BMW took more damage than the bike. Glad you came away mostly okay.

In a case like this in Cali, who is at fault? In any other state it would be your fault, but lane sharing is okay where you are. Are car drivers required to check for lane splitters before changing lanes, or is it up to the rider to stay safe?
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:36 AM   #3
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In this case the driver was at fault, crossing over the double yellow to exit the car pool lane when there was not exit.

That and the witness behind me was on a motorcycle and he admitted fault as well.

Far as I am concerned the matter is closed, I was not injured and only thing I am out are the crash bars. I will be talking to him about paying my cost for them since I bought them used and am only out 150 bucks. I wont sweat over something small like this.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:20 AM   #4
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Are car drivers required to check for lane splitters before changing lanes, or is it up to the rider to stay safe?
You're kidding, right? All drivers are required to check for all traffic in all states. You're right about placing blame though: common sense, reality & the law are often in opposite corners.

DSM8, if you don't already use one, I recommend a helmet cam to document any incident like your BMW encounter. Video goes a long way in court.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:37 AM   #5
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You're kidding, right? All drivers are required to check for all traffic in all states. You're right about placing blame though: common sense, reality & the law are often in opposite corners.

DSM8, if you don't already use one, I recommend a helmet cam to document any incident like your BMW encounter. Video goes a long way in court.
I was fortunate in that there was aneye witness right behind me who stopped and left his co.tact info but it is all sorted out now. No damagd to bike justneed new crash bars.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:52 AM   #6
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I'd do everything I could to nail him to the wall as far as your equipment damages go.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:35 PM   #7
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I've often wondered about these situations. Since I don't do it, and probably wouldn't even if it were legal here, I assume this probably happens more often than wed like to imagine. Speaking from my own personal experience, I know the mirrors on my truck and car are adjusted out a bit. Meaning I would see someone in the next lane easy enough, however something coming up right beside me a foot and 1/2 away or so, probably wouldn't get caught unless its actually at my passenger window.
Lane splitting, although legal in certain states / areas.. Just seems a bit like pushing your luck to me.

Always chance running into the pissed off driver because your able to ride through traffic and he cant, or just a plain driver not paying attention, more often then not you would end up on the losing end either way.
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Great to see the car take a beating! Glad your okay!
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:06 PM   #9
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I'd do everything I could to nail him to the wall as far as your equipment damages go.
The driver took full responsibility (he is also a rider) so we got things sorted out very quickly and the only issue for me is having to replace the crash bars.

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I've often wondered about these situations. Since I don't do it, and probably wouldn't even if it were legal here, I assume this probably happens more often than wed like to imagine.
Always chance running into the pissed off driver because your able to ride through traffic and he cant, or just a plain driver not paying attention, more often then not you would end up on the losing end either way.
You are right on both counts, when I lane split I don't got that much faster than the speed of traffic, I am the bike that moves over so the faster splitting ones can pass. And yes there are times drivers deliberately try and block lane splitting for their own reasons, I just avoid those circumstances when able.

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Great to see the car take a beating! Glad your okay!
Thanks! So far the damage tally for the fender and door according to the guy is over 2K they have not priced out the cost of repair to the front fender/facade yet so I think they are going to be close to the 3K+ mark. All this from my $150 dollar set of used crash bars I got off Craigs List. Of course I want another set but they dont make them anymore....

Still looking for a suitable replacement.

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Glad you came out of this ok!
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We don't need anymore of the DV N00bs crew on the injured list! Glad you made it out OK.
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:54 PM   #12
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Glad you came out of this ok!
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We don't need anymore of the DV N00bs crew on the injured list! Glad you made it out OK.
But as you can see I give as good as I get in this case at least...

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Old 05-24-2013, 09:32 AM   #13
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From the pics I can see, the bar isn't broken, just bent?

Looks like a job for a metal fab shop and a can of spray paint.
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:42 AM   #14
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From the pics I can see, the bar isn't broken, just bent?

Looks like a job for a metal fab shop and a can of spray paint.
Hard to make out in the pics but the tubing is actually kinked in a few sections and bent out of shape on all three planes.

Also the skid plate which is AL has been bent and creased on both sides.

Once the metal is creased like that it would take far too much work to straighten out and it will never be as strong as it was before. Given what they do and how well they have performed twice now (two different sets on two bikes but same circumstances) I would love to replace in kind but he doesn't make them anymore...

Anyone have a set they want to part with?

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Altrider makes some of the best crash bars...expensive but worth it, especially if the other guy is paying.
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