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Old 06-02-2013, 02:22 PM   #16
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..... WTF you only live once . My brother saved saved saved , worked his ass off for 42 years in a GM factory , then he died of esophageal cancer a few weeks ago . Before he died he told me how he wished he would done more to have a little fun , he lived like a miser and left his only daughter 3/4 of a million . That ain't gonna happen to me .

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Sorry about your brother.

Right on for living to the fullest! Enjoy what you can, while you can!

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Old 06-21-2013, 06:13 PM   #17
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If you are ever brave enough to try the 'darkside' on the Burgman 650, let me know.

Results are great for two-up riding, smoother ride, longer lasting rear tire (20k mi. vs 8k mi.).



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Old 06-21-2013, 07:50 PM   #18
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If you are ever brave enough to try the 'darkside' on the Burgman 650, let me know.

Results are great for two-up riding, smoother ride, longer lasting rear tire (20k mi. vs 8k mi.).




How does that work exactly , I know they get crazy mileage but how do the work in the twisties ? Isn't the back fighting the front some how ?

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Old 06-21-2013, 07:59 PM   #19
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It's like any other tire, take some miles to get used to and after that push it as hard as you want.. mastering anything just takes practice.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:18 PM   #20
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It's like any other tire, take some miles to get used to and after that push it as hard as you want.. mastering anything just takes practice.

I just ordered a new set of tires , the ones on my burg were still really good the front looked like a new tire . That said they were the originals and were 6 years old , so I decided to replace them . One of these days I'm going to have to test drive one . I know a lot of guys had them on their Valkyries and swore by them . There are a lot guys on the BUSA site who also swear by them .

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Old 06-21-2013, 08:22 PM   #21
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$65 Pirelli winter ice/snow car tire, pump it up to 40 psi and still last over 20k mi.

Contact patch is always bigger than moto tire, even when leaned over, just the transition between upright and leaned take some used to.
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Old 06-22-2013, 05:17 AM   #22
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I need to do this on my vstrom.. I just wore out another tire after only 2k. Just gotta find a place that will mount them.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:11 AM   #23
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I bought me a new (to me) Burgman 650 Ex a couple of months ago. The car tire on the back idea has never called to me before, but considering that I ride two-up most of the time now I am thinking about it. I think I have read every thread on using a car tire on the back over at the Burgman USA site. Still not sure as I also read the article in Rider Magazine some months ago that absolutely does not recommend them.

Still thinking...

Mounting is no problem for me as I have a motorcycle tire changing setup here at the house. I can even balance them. The setup has been well worth the investment for me.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:30 AM   #24
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Skeptics of using car tire on 2-wheel vehicles usually have no practical experience with the subject.

Check out the Darkside Forum for feedback from people who actually have experience with the topic.

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Old 06-23-2013, 06:39 PM   #25
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"...However I recently received e-mail from a fellow that subscribes to the Darkside, (http://mcdarksiders.forumotion.com) which is forum for car/motorcycle tire conversion enthusiasts. It stated in part that "the number of riders going to a car tire is growing by leaps and bounds and I think it (the use of car tires) needs to be tested by pros and the information published," So I suppose some comment is expected.

At the risk of sounding argumentative, not that it's ever stopped me before, I'd point out that both the tire and the motorcycle manufacturers have already done plenty of testing, and that's exactly why new motorcycles come with the tires they do, It's also why both warn against fitting anything but an approved motorcycle tire to a motorcycle. I'd also suggest that if we mounted a car tire to a test bike, and then wadded the thing up, we'd be left holding a large and very messy legal bag that no one, especially no one employed in the legal department at Motorcycle Cruiser, would be interested in taking off our hands."

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The idea that a casual ride "test" is worth more than decades of work of tire and motorcycle engineers and designers is specious. I don't need to "test" every electrical outlet in my house with wet fingers, to know that most of them will electrocute me. There might be one or two that won't...but it's safe to generalize.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:13 PM   #26
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I think now I have the best of all of the scooters now , A Big Ruckus , A Tmax and now a Burg 650 . WTF you only live once . My brother saved saved saved , worked his ass off for 42 years in a GM factory , then he died of esophageal cancer a few weeks ago . Before he died he told me how he wished he would done more to have a little fun , he lived like a miser and left his only daughter 3/4 of a million . That ain't gonna happen to me .

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Thats a very complete collection of some of the best of the best Reaper! Enjoy.
You have discriminating taste in scooters.

Detailing my vehicles and keeping them perty and well-maintained is part of the joy I get from them. Rubbing-up a newly acquired new or used scooter is part of the ceremony!

I never roll out on a dirty bike, and usually soil a motel towel or two when Im on scootabout (I dont wipe them on the dipstick though....TP for that).

Sorry about your brother, but yes...don't be so busy making a living you forget to make a life. Whats the point in that?

I'm sure you'll enjoy taking your brother with you in spirit as you scoot forward on any of those beautiful machines.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:36 PM   #27
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The idea that a casual ride "test" is worth more than decades of work of tire and motorcycle engineers and designers is specious. I don't need to "test" every electrical outlet in my house with wet fingers, to know that most of them will electrocute me. There might be one or two that won't...but it's safe to generalize.
If the only way to test electrical outlet you can a think of is to get electrocuted with wet fingers; then you're not very smart.

People who publish articles for the masses are smart enough to avoid the 'legal' issues of making endorsement of something that's out of the ordinary like using car tire on motorcycle.

To be innovative, to improve on the status quo; not only do you have to think out of the box, but actually take risks and do things out of the ordinary.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:54 PM   #28
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If the only way to test electrical outlet you can a think of is to get electrocuted with wet fingers; then you're not very smart.

People who publish articles for the masses are smart enough to avoid the 'legal' issues of making endorsement of something that's out of the ordinary like using car tire on motorcycle.

To be innovative, to improve on the status quo; not only do you have to think out of the box, but actually take risks and do things out of the ordinary.
If it's such a good idea, why don't engineers recommend it? Or why don't they just design a bike that uses them, or make one with rims that take car tires?

Big Tire conspiracy, right?
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Don't be naive; it's not conspiracy, but profit.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:44 AM   #30
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Don't be naive; it's not conspiracy, but profit.
Motorcycle engineers profit from lying to users by telling them not to use auto tires?

....oh. TIRE engineers profit from telling you not to use auto tires!

Then. Why don't they just not MAKE car tires? Or make them as expensive as motorcycle tires?
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