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Old 06-12-2013, 01:27 PM   #136
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Ok, let me see if I understand. Compared to a STR, the new FZ-09:

Weighs about the same (411 vs. 417 lbs. wet) if the FZ-09 is 53 lbs. lighter than the FZ8n.

2014 FZ-09: I3 motor, 847cc, 113 hp and 69 lb-ft (85 Nm)
2009 STR: I3 motor, 675cc, 105 hp and 51 lb-ft (69 Nm), sorry no 2012 numbers readily at hand.

This means that the FZ-09 produces more torque - fully expected from a 175cc increase in displacement, but less hp/liter, which means that the engine is slightly de-tuned relative to the Triumph. Hence, it should get better fuel economy, and is cheaper to buy.

The Triumph is already narrow, so if the Yamaha is narrower still, it may be a great fit for smaller-framed riders, which is great news. I haven't seen any numbers for wheel base, rake or trail, so handling dynamics are still unknown. The Triumph is on the short/steep end of the spectrum, which accounts for its legendary handling. I expect the Yamaha to be slightly more relaxed. I also expect a less adjustable suspension, just due to the price point.

Pricing is between the EX-650R and the STR, and with an 850cc engine, is clearly in a different class than the Kawasaki EX-650R and Versys.

Have I missed any of the essentials from the initial release numbers?

You didn't miss anything and the best part (to me anyway) is that it comes in red.

My only question is "are they discounting them yet?".
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:40 PM   #137
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You didn't miss anything and the best part (to me anyway) is that it comes in red.

My only question is "are they discounting them yet?".
And, I think that the lack of ABS (given how outstanding the unit on Yamaha's Super Tenere is) has to do with initial sales acceptance, which means meeting a price point. Somehow I think that the ABS on the S10 would be more than a $500 upgrade, and also requires a more sophisticated (and expensive) ECU.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:25 PM   #138
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The taillight looks like it was a complete afterthought. The rest of it (and the specs) look tasty, though...

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Old 06-12-2013, 02:26 PM   #139
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I love the triple sound, hate the ADVRider whine.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:31 PM   #140
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I like the wheels... Tail is not a problem. Rizoma will fix it. :)


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Old 06-12-2013, 02:38 PM   #141
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Tail is probably to meet US DOT specs. EU spec parts will probably fix it!

If not, like most DS/Dirt bikes, a hack saw will.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:47 PM   #142
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Tail is probably to meet US DOT specs. EU spec parts will probably fix it!

If not, like most DS/Dirt bikes, a hack saw will.
Don't know for sure, but so far the photos of the MT-09 appear to show the same parts (though the MT has LED tursignals IIRC)....however as you said it would not be too difficult to modify the taillight assembly to your liking and no doubt aftermarket solutions will appear quickly too as it looks like the demand for them will be very high ;-)


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Old 06-12-2013, 04:53 PM   #143
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And, I think that the lack of ABS (given how outstanding the unit on Yamaha's Super Tenere is) has to do with initial sales acceptance, which means meeting a price point. Somehow I think that the ABS on the S10 would be more than a $500 upgrade, and also requires a more sophisticated (and expensive) ECU.
It's frustrating that Yamaha doesn't even give us the option. I would gladly pay extra, and wait a few extra weeks for them to import an ABS model. They don't even have to stock any on the floor. Just give us the damn option.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:43 PM   #144
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At least whine from gear-driven cams makes some technical sense. I don't know why Triumph chose a noisy straight cut primary gear for a wonderful modern engine, other than for marketing reasons.
Its the intake, the cams are chain driven.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:17 PM   #145
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Thus endeth the lesson for today. Oh...And try not to be a big dick.
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You sound like a version of Patrick Stewart.

I bet he writes like that..

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Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of ADV Riders.
Or to take arms against a sea of technology
And by opposing it? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand manually adjusted shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil through lack of ABS
Must give us pause: there's the respect.

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Old 06-12-2013, 09:24 PM   #146
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:30 PM   #147
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That's a good looking motorbike. Hardly any tupperwear, engine is right there to see.

ps: This blows the Honda 700 right out of the water...

Me like.

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Old 06-12-2013, 09:44 PM   #148
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Looks great for the price.
I'll bet it's a fun ride.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:03 PM   #149
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very nice!
now where is the XC ADV bike version???
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:11 PM   #150
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very nice!
now where is the XC ADV bike version???
And...the Sport Touring version...the final step that Triumph refuses to take.
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