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Old 11-04-2013, 06:46 PM   #1576
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Valentino Rossi is 182cm, he's no midget.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:47 PM   #1577
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It's been working for the manufacturers with sport and supersport bikes. Perfect example, Repsol Honda look alikes. True supermotos aren't very practical on the road, but I'll bet that an FZ/MT look alike will sell to those who like the look.

Just check out supermotojunkie.com...
I understand some can practically be persuaded by looks alone, the ADV and cruiser markets have more than proven that. But the extra bits they've listed so far don't make it any better for me, in fact I think someone else summed it up well...

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The added plastic bits look like cobbled together horseshit.
In other words, if they're going to mostly purely aesthetic additions to an already good looking bike they shouldn't make it look worse. The supermoto look on street bikes is polarizing to consumers (Hypermotard, Dorsoduro, 990 SMR and SMT), it usually has to do with the styling of the little plastic that is used especially the high fender. I'd take any of those bikes looks over the new SR. The SR doesn't even look like a supermoto despite having some handling characteristics that lean in that direction. With no high front fender it basically looks like an oddly (half) faired naked bike, which seems to be exactly what I'm looking at.

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Well, it does mention "special chassis components", "radical cornering" and the fact that the "special parts mean that you can even run harder and faster". I doubt just plastic would help that bash.
If there were significant changes to the SR version then you'd think they'd be trumpeting those and mentioning secondary what they chose to highlight instead. I wouldn't be surprised if they already put it all out there and that's as good as it's gonna get. A thinner seat and wider pegs can enhance a rider's ability to corner on any bike, but will it be "radical"!? I'm not so sure but you can always put a different seat and pegs on the more refined looking standard model (not that I think it's winning any beauty contests). I for one think the SR looks like poo and we know it's looks are final! Minus the off-chance they reveal some more material changes I'd definitely pass on it in favor of any other new FZ offering in the States. Hell I'm more pumped for a potential FZ-07 and thank you jesus they already brought over the FZ-09.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:48 PM   #1578
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"Become the best wolf you can be (female whisper: "alpha male") with all this extra plastic...buy the SR, SO DARK!"
They are definitely pushing the looks.
I think the regular -09 is dark enough.

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Old 11-04-2013, 07:20 PM   #1579
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Mt-07

Europe's getting an MT-07 too.

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Old 11-04-2013, 08:20 PM   #1580
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Why would I want to add more plastic and weight to this bike? Doesn't make sense to me unless they are upgrading the suspension. Oh and yeah it's ugly.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:35 PM   #1581
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Even Rossi makes the bike look small, and he's practically a midget.

That's a half-asses photoshop job. His head is the size of a beach ball!
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:32 PM   #1582
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I may be strange, but I like the MT07 better then the MT09.

Finally a proper bike to compete in the SV/Gladius & ER6/650R category.
Yamaha's XJ6 is a joke.

I'd actually consider swapping my FZ6 for the MT07.
I miss the twin torque, don't miss the vibrations, but this is a 270 crank
which I loved in the NC700X.. and it's probably gonna have great fuel
economy.
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Old 11-05-2013, 02:27 AM   #1583
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Yeah cortez, the mt-07 is nothing flashy, but looks very decent so far on paper :
394 lbs full tank
50 ft/lbs
price: considering the mt-09 price point, this is going to be interesting.
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Old 11-05-2013, 02:30 AM   #1584
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Yeah cortez, the mt-07 is nothing flashy, but looks very decent on paper:
394 lbs full tank
50 ft/lbs
price: considering the mt-09 price point, this is going to be interesting.
It'll probably be better then the bikes I mentioned in the thread above if
they don't screw something up.

The FZ6 I own now is miles ahead of the ER6F (650R) that I had,
suspension, brakes, handling, frame flex, everything but torque.

On the other hand, 72hp that Kawi had was more then enough since
it was A LOT more usable then the 98hp on the FZ6 where you have
to be going over 50mph in 1st to get into the power band.

I also hated the character of the 180 twin in the Kawi, and I love the
270 on the NC700X and TDM..

..and it's lighter then all of them (the 07).

I'm not expecting it to be much cheaper then the MT09 though.
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Old 11-05-2013, 04:54 AM   #1585
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Budget brakes and conventional forks.I'm thinking $6995.
I'm liking it but still a 14 liter tank? It may get 60 MPG,though.
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Old 11-05-2013, 04:59 AM   #1586
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Budget brakes and conventional forks.I'm thinking $6995.
I'm liking it but still a 14 liter tank? It may get 60 MPG,though.
I had budget brakes and convetional forks on my 650R and there was nothing
wrong with that. The rear shock sucked, though. The Yamaha XJ6/Diversion
600 is currently the bike they make in that category and it's got the best
brakes and suspension of the bunch.

Also, my 15.5l tank on the 650R had the same range as the 19.4l tank I
have on the FZ6 now. Parallel twins can be amazing when it comes to
fuel efficiency. All record holders at different price ranges, years of production,
displacements etc were parallel twin.

The current Yamaha TDM which is 100cc more then the new MT07 can
get away with 60MPG on open roads, and that's a 10 year old design.

BMW F800ST/GT can do even better, and it's got almost 100hp.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:46 AM   #1587
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Versys could not pull off the MPG hat trick.cheap FI and low 50's MPG.
Your right,the BMW Rotax 800 is dialed in nicely for torque and consistent 60 MPG.
Then there is the Honda NC 700X getting mid 60's ? But at what cost ?
severly compromised powerband.Shortshift City!!

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Old 11-05-2013, 05:50 AM   #1588
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Versys could not pull off the MPG hat trick.cheap FI and low 50's MPG.
Your right,the BMW Rotax 800 is dialed in nicely for torque and consistent 60 MPG.
If I could get 60MPG on my 650R on open roads, it was usually 58-59MPG,
Versys should be able to do the same. In town, I usually never went worse
then 52MPG in 20.000 miles I had it.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:56 AM   #1589
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I never got better than low 50's on my Versys.
I believe the 650R was geared a bit higher.
You don't have to deal with Ethanol in Croatia,either.
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I never got better than low 50's on my Versys.
I believe the 650R was geared a bit higher.
You don't have to deal with Ethanol in Croatia,either.
I went a tooth up front at about half the miles, didn't change the MPGs much.

Riding style did.. and from what I can see, most people rev the engine a lot
more then I did. I was keeping it between 3000 and 4000 revs 90% of the
time. Only in 6th it didn't like being below 3500.

650R is lighter and probably has better aerodynamics, but Versys has 7hp
less for that torque even lower then 650R.. I'd call it a draw.

I wish I had 50MPG now though, I'm looking at 40 with the FZ6.
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