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Old 06-13-2013, 06:09 PM   #211
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and Yamaha also makes Pianos, a myriad of professional sound equipment among tons of other things (hence the tuning forks as a logo) - I used to work for them.

My point was that Yamaha doesn't make any triples right now (that I know of) and at the moment the majority of Triumph motorcycles are triples. So when Yamaha makes a middle weight streetfighter in a triple...... it look a lot like imitation even if it's a legacy bike
Yamaha has been making triple snowmobile engines (2 and 4 stroke) since at least about the mid 90's. And of course they had the XS750 & 850 in the 70's and 80's. I believe a lot of the technology they put into the new 850 is based on development they've done on the Nitro snowmobile triple. So I wouldn't go so far as saying its their legacy, but I don't feel they are being derivitave if the Triumph triples.

I don't really think Yamaha is trying to capture market share from Triumph. Lets face it, Yamaha's sales must be several times Triumph's. And I don't think that a person who buys a Triumph would necessarily consider a Yamaha. It seems to me (just my observation) many Triumph buyers are looking for something different and a little out of the mainstream. And as someone born & raised on Japanese bikes, although I've ridden them and like them, I've never been very tempted to buy a Triumph.

I'm much more tempted to buy this bike than a Speed Triple.
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:15 PM   #212
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I'm much more tempted to buy this bike than a Speed Triple.
that's interesting..... why's that?
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:30 PM   #213
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Didn't Suzuki make a series of 2-stroke street triples in the 1970's - GT380, GT550, GT750? Seems to me that my college roommate's father had a GT380.
Yeah, I think the "Big Four" Have done everything at least once.

Suzuki even did a Rotary (RE5).

Honda had their Wasserboxer out in 1978?
Now would be a good time to do one a smaller one again I think

I don't get what the hangup is about one company "owning" a configuration. The engineers must just get a bit of a laugh over that.

It must be good to be able to try something a new every now and then.
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:49 PM   #214
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:13 PM   #215
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I don't really think Yamaha is trying to capture market share from Triumph. Lets face it, Yamaha's sales must be several times Triumph's. And I don't think that a person who buys a Triumph would necessarily consider a Yamaha. It seems to me (just my observation) many Triumph buyers are looking for something different and a little out of the mainstream. And as someone born & raised on Japanese bikes, although I've ridden them and like them, I've never been very tempted to buy a Triumph.

I'm much more tempted to buy this bike than a Speed Triple.
As a triumph owner I would prefer to be riding a Yamaha if it delivered the same performance/characteristics. I test rode the tiger 800 and the engine performance/characteristics sold me (and the rest of the bike (sans suspension) delivers as well. If Yamaha can deliver the same or better riding experience in a similar bike style, sign me up, they make great products.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:17 PM   #216
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I like how this bike sounds on paper and how it looks. I don't like the lack of abs and the fact that it will be a new model and I like to stay away from first year bikes. That is why I will be picking up my Street Triple R tomorrow. Tried and true, tested and corrected. Triumph tweaked it for 2013 and I didn't want to wait for Yamaha to tweak the fz09 in 2015 or 2016 like they had to do with the fz1, fz8, fjr etc. I love my fjr, 2006 w/122k miles but it is the 2nd generation. Everyone seems to like the 3 cylinder configuration and I am 62 yoa and looking at smaller and lighter and not necessarily a bike lacking in power. I know momma yamma will make it a winner but it wasn't soon enough for me.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:04 PM   #217
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I think this bike is insanely compelling.

Same weight as the Streetie, more power, lots more torque, for less than $7999
That means I might could get a real world deal of 7kish out the door.

How can you beat that bang for buck???
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:06 PM   #218
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The only thing that would make me hesitate buying one of these, would be the 14 litre fuel tank. that's pretty tiny. I remember when i had my 04 SV650, it had a 17 litre tank and averaged just over 300kms per tank. Likely the fuel injection is more efficient on the Yamaha than the SVwas, but, it's still a 900cc motor and will use a pretty good amount of fuel. So would that give it only about a 200 km range?
Realistically, anything that can't cover at least 300km on a tank, isn't going to be good for anything other than posing down at the doughnut shop.

Other than that, the bike looks spectacular.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:14 PM   #219
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It's ugly but it absolutely shits all over the competition in the price range. Unless it gets terrible gas mileage i don't see a reason to get an SFV650/Ninja 650R/FZ6R over this unless you have to have a fairing and be crouched over. A nice round headlight from Aztec8 would fix the ugly problem. I like the decent amount of suspension travel as well.
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:28 PM   #220
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I didn't say it was small, I'm getting that it's usable/tractable. Unlike an R6.

Plus, mid-size nakeds sell in huge numbers in mainland Europe.

Even something as basic as the ER6n has sold 20,000+ units since launch.
The Z750 probably outsold it by 2-3 times.
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:30 PM   #221
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Has anyone heard where this bike will be produced? I know Honda has been producing bikes in Thailand to help keep costs down, at this price point is Yamaha making it in Japan or elsewhere?
Does it matter any more, really?
Everyone is making everything everywhere.
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Old 06-14-2013, 01:48 AM   #222
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So, cross-plane just means that the firing order is not 180?
120 in their specs.

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So when Yamaha makes a middle weight streetfighter in a triple...... it look a lot like imitation even if it's a legacy bike
That's okay with me. I like the concept in the Street Triple and I like the concept in the FZ-09. It's not like Rolex is the only company to build a stainless steel dive watch with a stainless band, black face, and black ringed bezel is it? Even if the Submariner is "the standard," others can take the concept and do their thing with it. If people prefer "the standard" over a variation, good for them--get that.

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Old 06-14-2013, 03:49 AM   #223
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Didn't take long

http://www.yamahafz09.com/index.php
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Old 06-14-2013, 03:50 AM   #224
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There is a US-Model too, called FZ-09:



http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/spo...85/0/home.aspx
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How come every member is an administrator?

Software glitch or maybe this way everyone can screw with everyone else's posts.
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