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Old 09-22-2013, 02:44 PM   #1051
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That's odd I asked about them just the other week at velocity and they said they wouldn't have them for a while. The have about three fz8s up there as of Tuesday but I didn't see or hear about any fz09s. I'm curious to see the bike in real life and my brother is also interested in it. Where did you see it?
It was in west Ashley yesterday afternoon about 4:30 PM parked at "Nail Palace" on Windermere Blvd near Earth Fare. We turned in off of Folly Road and the bike caught my eye- "Cylon" front headlight, tuning fork on the gas tank, and definitely 3 exhaust pipes on the front of the engine; it was definitely an FZ-09. ~10 minutes later when we left the bike was already gone or I would have snapped a pic. It was one of the darker colors (definitely not red), but I couldn't swear what color it was. Sharp bike.
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Old 09-22-2013, 04:03 PM   #1052
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If they make an adventure bike and don't dumb down the power, Tiger and ST owners will both be worried.
Nah, They would just ruin it with a shaft drive anyway... Like they did the Super Tenere.
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Old 09-22-2013, 05:21 PM   #1053
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New OZ test out..

Now I thought you Super Motard riders in OZ would have to suck it up and watch the Merkans and Euro's for a while in envy.

Well no. But at least the Merkans can "ner nee ner" at us for a little while.
Saw that, the review was pretty positive. Here is the final line in the review "And while the suspension package and brakes don't match the calibre of the power plant, its worth remembering this is a first effort from Yamaha, and a very fine one at that." Bit silly really as Yamaha have been making bikes for many years. Why sugar coat it? Just say the bike is a damn fine effort let down by cheap suspension, a common complaint through all the launch reviews.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:13 PM   #1054
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Saw that, the review was pretty positive. Here is the final line in the review "And while the suspension package and brakes don't match the calibre of the power plant, its worth remembering this is a first effort from Yamaha, and a very fine one at that." Bit silly really as Yamaha have been making bikes for many years. Why sugar coat it? Just say the bike is a damn fine effort let down by cheap suspension, a common complaint through all the launch reviews.
Well assumed at the price it probably wouldn't have full spec top end suspenders, so that makes sense.

Those who want it will just have to R-Spec their own.

If it is successful an R-Spec may follow. Be a bit strange to see an R-Spec BOLT cruiser but not one of these wouldn't it?

Or am I just getting old and not understanding the new world?
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:32 PM   #1055
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Yep, the suspension is made to the price point.

I had a KTM 690 Duke, with Brembo brakes, WP fully adjustable suspension and cast aluminum wheels, and it cost $10.6K USD.

That was a 650cc single w 65HP.

If Yamaha did the same, it would rival the Speed triple's price, and none of us would be considering it.

Like I read before, 90% of buyers will never ride the bike hard enough to feel the cheaper investment in suspension and brakes.

With the roads in my area, I know I won't... tp
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:56 PM   #1056
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Well assumed at the price it probably wouldn't have full spec top end suspenders, so that makes sense.

Those who want it will just have to R-Spec their own.

If it is successful an R-Spec may follow. Be a bit strange to see an R-Spec BOLT cruiser but not one of these wouldn't it?

Or am I just getting old and not understanding the new world?
The interesting thing here is price relativity. In the USA Yamaha are lobbing the Fz-09 in at "dumping" prices compared to the price relativity in Europe vs the standard Street Triple 675.

RideApart (USA) wrote "The Yamaha FZ-09 has an MSRP of $7,990 making it cheaper than pretty much any of its competitors. The Triumph Street Triple starts at $9,399, makes less power and torque, but does have usefully good fueling and suspension."

$1300 buys some good suspension & fuelling upgrades I agree.

But in the AMCN article they were speculating that the price in Oz would be line ball with the Street Triple as it is in the UK & mainland Europe so then the value judgements change. Before we start whinging about price discrepancies between AUS & the US the Street Triple 675 price in the US & AUS are pretty much on parity, its the "aggressive" pricing by Yamaha in the US that makes the difference.

As for the R spec issue, the Bolt R-Spec is cosmetic only. Yamaha occasionally do a SP version (Ohlins equipped R1 in Yellow for instance)
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:31 PM   #1057
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Price here in Euroland is going to be under €8000 VAT inclusive for the non-ABS version...that includes the higher bling-spec Orange and Dark Armor models. That matches up pretty close to the non-ABS Street Triple, and stays right with it in ABS versions.

Thing is, it'll have a bit more appeal thanks to a host of factory farkles, 15 ft/lbs torque advantage, and a better proportioned look (great for larger riders that won't consider a Street due to how they think they look on the bike).

And there's a fair few riders over here that won't buy the Streety because, well, Triumph.
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:03 AM   #1058
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First ride up at motorcycledaily.com:

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/...md-first-ride/
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:53 AM   #1059
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First ride up at motorcycledaily.com:

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/...md-first-ride/
When MD talks, I listen. Nice to read what all the others have written, though. Taking my bike out for a long ride today, to see if I can find some reason to hate it. Or maybe I just need a 3rd bike.
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Old 09-23-2013, 05:52 AM   #1060
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First ride up at motorcycledaily.com:

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/...md-first-ride/
This is the most credible review yet. Thanks for posting.

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Old 09-23-2013, 06:56 AM   #1061
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Sigh, the more I read about it, the more I want one!
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:38 AM   #1062
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I thought long and hard about one, but no one seems to be saying where this bike is made. In the end, I bought an M1100 evo. That bike has been ridden with great reviews, the engine has character and we know where it was built.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:00 AM   #1063
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I thought long and hard about one, but no one seems to be saying where this bike is made. In the end, I bought an M1100 evo. That bike has been ridden with great reviews, the engine has character and we know where it was built.
More than likely, engineered in Japan, assembled in Taiwan. Many bikes are, my CRF250L was, and from what I've heard most of the Triumphs are. Inexpensive labor.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:35 AM   #1064
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:37 AM   #1065
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