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Old 06-12-2013, 02:49 AM   #106
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awesome bike so far... looking forward for a testride
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:33 AM   #107
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I'm actively looking for my next bike. I will not buy one without abs. There's a sales figure.
I've yet to own a bike with ABS, so I guess I don't know what i'm missing.


It does look like the Street Triple may have some competition.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:43 AM   #108
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Hmmm, the FZ-09's specs against a Duc Supermoto, Street Triple and my DR's suspension. Thing reads like a supermoto and ST had a kid. On paper it looks like it should be a lot of fun.

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Suspension / Front 41mm fork; adjustable preload and rebound damping; 5.4-in travel [Ducati's supermoto is listed as 6.7; Street triple is ~4.5"; DR650 10.2"]
Suspension / Rear Single shock; adjustable preload and rebound damping; 5.1-in travel [Ducati's supermoto is listed as 5.9; Street Triple is ~5.3; DR650 10.2"]
Brakes / Front Dual hydraulic disc, 298mm
Brakes / Rear 267mm disc
Tires / Front 120/70-ZR17
Tires / Rear 180/55-ZR17

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Length 81.7 in
Width 32.1 in
Height 44.7 in
Seat Height 32.1 in [Duc's standard supermoto is 34.2 in.; Street Triple is 31.5"]
Wheelbase 56.7 in [Duc ~57"; Street Triple 55"; DR650 58.7"]
Ground Clearance 5.3 in
Rake (Caster Angle) 25.0 [Ducati's supermoto is 24; Street Triple is 24.1; DR650 28 stock at 26-27 with SM wheels per ProCycle]
Fuel Capacity 3.7 gal
Fuel Economy** N/A
Wet Weight*** 414 lb
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:06 AM   #109
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Wow, hard to believe some of the complaints against this bike already. Frankly, it looks like a fantastic bike, especially for the price, with decent styling which isn't trying to directly copy another bike.

Of course every new bike announcement goes through the same reaction curve: new bike announced, speculation, people list their own silly niche desired features, teaser pics come out, people hate the teasers, bike is unveiled, people hate it for what it is not, people actually start buying the bike, hey the bike is pretty good, people finally stop complaining about the bike because it is pretty good... another new bike announced...

I suspect every single person who ends up buying this bike is going to love it. Light, different, triple engine, Yamaha quality. It's going to be a great bike.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:13 AM   #110
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I'd like to take a spin on it!

Does it use the Nytro motor from the snowmobiles? Nope.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/06/11...review-photos/

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Old 06-12-2013, 06:17 AM   #111
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I'm likin' this thing...It's like a Triumph, but reliable. Yes, I owned a Triumph.

ABS isn't really a big deal for me, never had a bike with it, never missed it. Just one less thing to break as I see it. I'm not saying I doubt it's value, but it's omission is no big deal for me.

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Old 06-12-2013, 06:18 AM   #112
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I'm actively looking for my next bike. I will not buy one without abs. There's a sales figure.
I'm hoping we can discuss this without turning it into an ABS debate, but I agree. I will not buy another street bike without ABS. Other than that this bike seems like it will be fantastic. Thw triple motor, power and low weight seems like a fantastic combination.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:37 AM   #113
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If they can put out the naked bike for 8 grand, does that mean we can get a mini-FJR for about ten?

THAT would be, to borrow a phrase from the past, 'tits'.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:38 AM   #114
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Well, it does have blurble wheels.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:51 AM   #115
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If they can put out the naked bike for 8 grand, does that mean we can get a mini-FJR for about ten?

THAT would be, to borrow a phrase from the past, 'tits'.
Yes, way sweet. I'd prefer to phrase it as a daily, real world, street sportbike. But, either way, that'd rock.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:53 AM   #116
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I don't really see why so many have a problem with the looks. The headlight/cluster area looks so much more tidy than the speed/street triple. I really like the way the exhaust lines match the swing arm and the wheels look really great. My two gripes are the flat seat instead of stepped, and I would have liked to see fully adjustable suspension. But for the price I think its a home run.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:59 AM   #117
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It looks interesting to me though I'd like to see an iteration with better fuel capacity and wind protection for touring purposes. No ABS is not a deal breaker for me but I would probably get it if it was available. I'd also want the charging system to be stout enough to handle lots of accessories.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:03 AM   #118
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Some nice info just came up on motorcycledaily.com. The pics at the bottom w/Dirk Edge sitting on the bike makes it look tiny. I don't mean to be negative because I think the bike sounds about perfect (especially in a sportbike format.), but it may be too small? Tiny looking!
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:04 AM   #119
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Wow, hard to believe some of the complaints against this bike already. Frankly, it looks like a fantastic bike, especially for the price, with decent styling which isn't trying to directly copy another bike.

Of course every new bike announcement goes through the same reaction curve: new bike announced, speculation, people list their own silly niche desired features, teaser pics come out, people hate the teasers, bike is unveiled, people hate it for what it is not, people actually start buying the bike, hey the bike is pretty good, people finally stop complaining about the bike because it is pretty good... another new bike announced...

I suspect every single person who ends up buying this bike is going to love it. Light, different, triple engine, Yamaha quality. It's going to be a great bike.
Hey, I was gonna say all that. Especially that last paragraph. Thanks.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:29 AM   #120
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Nothing is more damaging that an individual's imagination run amok. For so many it would appear that ABS keeps that cruel mind less unreality in check.

It is said that reality is a wall with a sliding door. Some of us are afraid to go out side. Not because of what awaits us out there but because of what lies with in. To be more specific, with in us.

This new FZ9 looks to be a fine bike, more than capable of navigating the roads of the world safely. My only real faults with it have to do with fuel capacity as it seems to be on the small side and a centre stand would be great to have but in this case neither of which would stop me from buying one were I in the market for such a bike.

ABS is nothing more than icing on the cake. Plain cake is nice to have too. The bike looks well built and is more than competitively priced.

People damn with faint praise that which they never intended to buy in the first place. That the bike and its performance are beyond the skill of many is more than evidenced by those that need the condom of ABS before they will consider one. Do such folk even leave their homes for fear of slipping on a wet side walk?

Imagine that.

And no, my words are merely comment upon yours and others here that feel, not think, the same towards any thing not made to protect them from themselves. If you (or any others here) consider that a slur against your character, so be it. I just find that mentality a bit silly. That you do not is fine with me.

Enjoy what you have. I hope it has ABS. And traction control. And an air bag. And...

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Who would have thought it? To choose or not to choose ABS has become an issue of posture. There is nothing to fear with ABS. It is entirely transparent. Just sitting in the background, quite possibly never to be used.

I think the points raised in this thread is why doesn't Yamaha give US consumers the same choice as consumers in the rest of the world when it comes to ABS as a yay or nay option. As the self proclaimed home of world democracy thats a fair question.

Of course Mr Toad, if your motorcycling is entirely practiced on rigid framed, side-valve single cylinder curiosity pieces with tubed crossply tyres, points ignition complete with manual advance, amal carbies, 6 volt electrics plus a tank mounted gear change and if you tend to dress for your motor-bicycling adventures in Belstaffs & a pudding basin helmet, then I could understand your discomfort with all this modern tech.

But the reality is that the presence or not of ABS on a motorcycle does not detract from the techniques needed to pilot the vehicle in a skilful, stylish & successful manner. And that why we do it isn't it? Not as a show of bravado, not as a kind of lifestyle jewellery, but for the satisfaction of a well practiced craft. No?










BTW ABS wont make your penis shrink either.
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