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Old 06-16-2013, 12:54 PM   #1
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foot down cornering

When did moto-gp start doing this and why ? In the last hundred or so feet leading into left hand corners (a few right handers but disproportionally left ) they drop a foot . Why ?
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Old 06-16-2013, 01:42 PM   #2
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AFAIK it started with The Doctor who made a pass on the inside of the inside curb, ADV style, put his foot out (instinctively?) and pulled it off.
Being superstitious like most riders are, he kept sticking his foot out even if he wasn't making passes in the dirt anymore.
Other riders started copying it because hey, if Rossi does it then it must work.
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:02 PM   #3
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I don't know why they do it in Moto-GP. But in Moto-X it's not actually foot down (like to keep from low-siding), rather it is leg & foot forward for weight transfer. While this could become dabbing a foot down to save it, that's not why it's done by nearly every rider corner after corner.
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:08 PM   #4
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Old 06-16-2013, 02:12 PM   #5
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It's weight transfer , like sticking a knee out , but they're not putting their foot DOWN. If you dabbed your foot at speed on asphalt you better have on a rollerskate.
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Old 06-16-2013, 03:43 PM   #6
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Rossi explained it for him a few years back that his knees are getting old and it just helps to stretch them out
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Old 06-16-2013, 06:14 PM   #7
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:20 PM   #8
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I can remember a few years ago when Valentino Rossi started sticking his leg out coming into corners. He did it more for left turns than for right, but did it on both sides. Others started doing it too, because it actually helps a little. Sticking the leg out puts a little bit more weight on the front tire, which is very close to the limits of traction when they do it. It also gets a little bit more weight to the inside of the turn which also helps.

When I'm going super slow and making tight turns, like in my driveway or at work in the motorcycle parking area, sticking my inside leg out to balance can make a difference in controlling the bike when the only other option might be to accelerate a bit instead - or put a foot down. So I do it sometimes to help balance - never for maximum breaking, though.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:55 PM   #9
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Funny as it looks, guys like Valentino ride at such a high level they can pretty do whatever they want.

Cept now the squids will start hanging legs out thinking it helps their riding. Only thing squids can do to be better riders is get some training. But that's like asking the choir in hell to sing gospel songs.

Oh hey, when making slow tight turns, its better for balance to keep your feet on the pegs and in contact on the bike. Slow tight turns are done by:
Body central on the bike, leaning opposite the bike lean, clutch engaged, steady throttle, drag the rear brake, turning the head/eyes where you want to go. Sticking a leg out is a substantial part of body wieght and actually does more to un-balance the bike/rider combo.
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Oh hey, when making slow tight turns, its better for balance to keep your feet on the pegs and in contact on the bike. Slow tight turns are done by:
Body central on the bike, leaning opposite the bike lean, clutch engaged, steady throttle, drag the rear brake, turning the head/eyes where you want to go. Sticking a leg out is a substantial part of body wieght and actually does more to un-balance the bike/rider combo.
I know that I could always get up on the pegs and do a lot of other stuff, like a trials rider, to get better low speed control, but for three seconds of tight maneuvering when I've just started the bike, sticking a leg out is "easier". Maybe if I were a few decades younger I would do it the "right" way, but this works for me.
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Rossi is just airing his balls out. When yer nuts are that big, they generate a LOT of heat..........leg acts as an air intake.
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Rossi is just airing his balls out. When yer nuts are that big, they generate a LOT of heat..........leg acts as an air intake.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:06 PM   #13
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There is also a train of thought that the leg hanging out acts as a pendulum/damper and helps absorb some of the movement/wiggle the bike has under hard braking.

How true that is I'm not sure, but it sorta makes sense.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:33 PM   #14
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When did moto-gp start doing this and why ? In the last hundred or so feet leading into left hand corners (a few right handers but disproportionally left ) they drop a foot . Why ?
He isnt doing it moto X style, he's using his inner foot for balance
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:09 PM   #15
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Rossi is just airing his balls out. When yer nuts are that big, they generate a LOT of heat..........leg acts as an air intake.
reminds me of a weekend trip I went on with 3 other riders, one of the guys although he's been riding for years, he only rides maybe 1000 miles a year and had no real gear. We've in the Adirondacks on a cool October morning, this guy was riding a V-Rod the rest of us are on adventure bikes, V-strom & couple GSs, I was riding sweep, all I could think was how cold the V-Rod guy's nuts were with the 35 air whistling up the pant legs of his loose fitting jeans

I keep my feet on the pegs, even winter riding on snow & ice, with a 500lb bike, sticking your leg out is a good way to get a fracture from compression
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