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Old 10-29-2013, 05:38 PM   #1
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Suzuki Recursion

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/10/29...w-photo-video/

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Here is the heart of the matter: Recursion makes a claimed 100 hp at 8,000 rpm, but peak torque is a whopping 74 pound-feet way down at 4,500 rpm. Instead of the never-ending dwee-dwee-dwee upshifting of a 600cc sportbike, Recursion delivers at least 3,500 rpm of hefty, no-shifting-needed torque. This is the torque of a liter-bike, given across a three-times-wider band and packaged into a light middleweight
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:41 PM   #2
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whoa, that sounds great. Is this a 420 lb middleweight or a 500lb middleweight?

ye gods cycleworld has a horrid touch website.
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:54 PM   #3
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This bike with its power to weight ratio and stout torque curve has the potential to be a game changer if the price is right.

I remember the last wave of turbo bikes coming out of Japan. They suffered from lack of refinement, excess weight, and a disinterested response from punters.

If the Recursion shows up on the sales floor with styling anything close to the show bike and runs as good as the specs suggest - this could get very interesting indeed.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:39 PM   #4
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whoa, that sounds great. Is this a 420 lb middleweight or a 500lb middleweight?

ye gods cycleworld has a horrid touch website.
384 lbs (177Kg) (dry) weight so it's like a 420 lb middleweight. (190Kg) unless it has a 100Litre tank then all bets are off.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:47 PM   #5
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384 lbs (177Kg) (dry) weight so it's like a 420 lb middleweight. (190Kg) unless it has a 100Litre tank then all bets are off.
Outstanding.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:59 PM   #6
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I like it. With today's tech, a seamlessly functional turbo motorcycle engine seems like a natural. Looks dang cool too.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:41 PM   #7
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It's a concept - don't get too excited. And has Suzuki ever made a sssa before??
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:56 PM   #8
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And has Suzuki ever made a sssa before??
I don't know but if you put this..

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Volkswagen AG completed the purchase of 19.9% of Suzuki Motor Corporation's issued shares on 15 January 2010, Volkswagen AG is the biggest shareholder in Suzuki
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...and the Ducati marque: 100% ownership by Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A.;[8] company was bought on 19 July 2012.
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So they could go over to Ducwagen and ask the engineers nicely to borrow some techs for the Suzwagon group they may be able to come up with something OR alternatively Volkswagen being Volkswagen are probably going to convince Suzwagon to use the same part from a Ducwagen.

Soon we should see direct injected turbo diesel, L-TWIN, DCT models with SSSA's.in upmarket Ducaghini and base model Suzwagon variants.
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:28 AM   #9
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I don't know but if you put this..



Together with this...



and this


So they could go over to Ducwagen and ask the engineers nicely to borrow some techs for the Suzwagon group they may be able to come up with something OR alternatively Volkswagen being Volkswagen are probably going to convince Suzwagon to use the same part from a Ducwagen.

Soon we should see direct injected turbo diesel, L-TWIN, DCT models with SSSA's.in upmarket Ducaghini and base model Suzwagon variants.
Sounds iffy at best.
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:32 AM   #10
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Sounds iffy at best.
Which bit?
The diesel bit? Or the VW branded Bit?
Yeah, The diesel bit was tougue in cheek.

VW have popped a few concept drawings over the years for some reason.
Then their Lamborghini subsidiary buys Ducati.
Then they buy a big chunk of Suzuki. Maybe it has nothing to do with the bike division.
Maybe they are just great guys and wanted to help Suzuki out.
Then Suzuki gets into a SSSA bike with a turbo.
And of course VW Group is really well known for heavily parts sharing across their brands.

Bit on the other hand Mr Suzuki is really not happy with VW and is filing for divorce.
Who knows. Maybe Mr Suzuki is desperate to make money so he can get out of it and want to go after Ducwagon.

Hollywood could use this stuff.

But hey if the major shareholder of your company suggests sourcing a component from another company they own do you think that maybe a cash strapped Suzuki might just consider it?

Could be all balony but it tends to work that way. Maybe they are just sitting on 19% of Suzuki waiting for the shares to skyrocket.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:04 AM   #11
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I'd punch that thing right in the baby maker.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:45 AM   #12
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If I remember right the B-King was originally turbo-charged and SSSA.

.....we saw how that worked out.
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Old 10-30-2013, 04:39 AM   #13
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Swingarm. Who cares? I wanna see a new wave of production motorcycle turbos! Potentially exciting, but Suzuki is good at letting us down, recently.
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Old 10-30-2013, 04:43 AM   #14
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I've long said they need to bring back the turbos.

The auto industry is catching on. Will bike makers do the same?
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:24 AM   #15
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I'd like to see how a nearly-dead brand markets a $20k 580cc twin.
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