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Old 07-24-2013, 10:18 PM   #16
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I might go $4923.00 for one,if yamaha stocked the cafe parts.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:44 PM   #17
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Bigger Motor.....

Why not use the 650 single out of the S-40? Ride everywhere with that motor.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:09 AM   #18
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The sr400 is a Yamaha, the S40 is a Suzuki.
They could make a TU350 with a dr350 motor in it, or a TU650 with a dr650 motor in it, or a TU650 with the savaage motor in it, but they don't.

Yamaha has the XT250 motor, the XT225 motor, and the TW200 motor, and that is about it for air cooled thumpers unless you go way back.

I suspect the TU 250 would be better then the SR400 in every respect other then ergonomics.

Since its not balanced, the sr400 motor may be a bit like my old Triumph Daytona, which made more power, but you could not or did not want to use it because it would vibrate the bike apart if you did.

The TU runs cool, has a plated bore, bearings on the cam, and is balanced, so you can abuse the motor all you like and its happy.
Get out on the interstate and run 85 mph all day long, and the bike loves it, and you do not feel its going to blow up or sieze, or use any oil.

From what I hear, the SR400/500 motors do not feel that way, and might not hold up so well to full throttle all day runs at top speed in high heat.
The rider might not enjoy the vibration much either.

Still, I would get one, just for the size of the bike, and the style/simplicity of it.
Gear it up a bit and be happy at lower speeds and enjoy the nimble handling and the thumper torque and vibes.

I also think it might be fun with dual sport tires on dirt roads, the TU sucks in the dirt, maybe the SR would be better.






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Why not use the 650 single out of the S-40? Ride everywhere with that motor.
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:07 AM   #19
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I don't want all the convenient things that make todays bikes bland. Give me the kicker.
Me too. Kick start only is for real men with hair on their ass.
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:45 AM   #20
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Since its not balanced, the sr400 motor may be a bit like my old Triumph Daytona, which made more power, but you could not or did not want to use it because it would vibrate the bike apart if you did.

The TU runs cool, has a plated bore, bearings on the cam, and is balanced, so you can abuse the motor all you like and its happy.
Get out on the interstate and run 85 mph all day long, and the bike loves it, and you do not feel its going to blow up or sieze, or use any oil.

From what I hear, the SR400/500 motors do not feel that way, and might not hold up so well to full throttle all day runs at top speed in high heat.
The rider might not enjoy the vibration much either.
My SR500 has bearings on the camshaft, I see no reason why the 400 wouldn't. You're right on the bore and no counter balancer though.
500's and I assume 400's still get raced today, they're very reliable engines to my knowledge, and take very well to mods
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:28 AM   #21
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I have read that about them, the engine is good for the most part.
I just wonder about how the overall bike does if you hold it wide open a lot. Like say you wanted to do 80 mph on the interstate for an hour...
The TU is happy to do so, as are some other smaller bikes, others get hot and bothered, start making noises, or blow up.
The tw200 I had made knocking noises at higher rpm's and full throttle, and ran a bit hot, even after a jet change, and did not hold a lot of oil.
I ignored it, and it never had problems, but I never held it wide open for an hour...

It seems a bit of a mixed bag with Yamaha, the old XT250 I had seemed bullet proof and happy to sing, a friend has two xt225's that had wrist pin problems (both motors broke), and the TW200 made bad noises.

The new XT250 has a plated bore and seems fine.

All the small Suzuki motors seem to do real well.

Its 2013 and they should be able to make motors that hold up to abuse without running hot, exploding, wearing out, using oil, or making bad noises...



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My SR500 has bearings on the camshaft, I see no reason why the 400 wouldn't. You're right on the bore and no counter balancer though.
500's and I assume 400's still get raced today, they're very reliable engines to my knowledge, and take very well to mods
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Old 07-26-2013, 04:07 PM   #22
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Some pictures of the bikes they had on display at the Moto GP race.







A Scrambler version with a 19" front wheel please.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:16 PM   #23
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I rode an SR500 to Douala in Cameroun in 1979. It took massive amounts of overloaded abuse across Africa and I was the one that got sick with jaundice and flew home. The SR500 took the slow boat home and after I recovered I rode it all over the more civlized confines of Western (as it then was) Europe for a few more years.

Until I blew a transmission seal (my fault) in Niger, it used no oil, dealt with appalling heat and sand and crap and never missed a beat. WOT on the freeway should be no problem. That said I love the idea of a new SR but my fat slow new Bonneville does everything just fine, except kick start, and it has a balanced twin to boot.
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:23 PM   #24
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Sr400/sr500


having owned an SRX6 and made the unforgiveable error of selling it....I would definitely pay $5K for an SR400 or $6K for an SR500...but they MUST have kickers on em!
otherwise I seem to be stuck waiting for the KTM Duke 390!
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:48 PM   #25
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I am saving up cash just in case they bring it in.
When do the 2014 models come into the US?
Or are they already here?

I have been leaning to an old KZ 400 or some such if they don't bring it in.
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Old 11-24-2013, 11:50 PM   #26
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The new sr400

THe old sr400 was easier to kick in comparment with the sr500. Do you guys think the new one is going to be easier to kick if you compare it with the old sr400?
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:23 AM   #27
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Old 11-25-2013, 03:47 AM   #28
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The new version has a decomp cam and a window to show when piston is at tdc, its also fuel injected, theres videos of it being kicked over by an Asian girl on youtube, the kicker is not an issue!
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Old 11-25-2013, 03:49 AM   #29
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Old 11-25-2013, 03:58 AM   #30
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