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Old 06-21-2013, 07:29 PM   #1
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perfect tent broke, how to set up lesser tent in rain

4 years 100+ nights in the perfect tent.
Ok not quit perfect tent, but when it's up in the rain,with coctail waiting.I can point and laugh at my 20k bike friends. Quenchua , a perfect tent
Its done now, crack in pole and justb wont fit on ne bike , klr or connie.
How do I set up a tent in the rain? Upside down? Rain fly first? Or just find away to mount an instant tent
Not affiliated with them. But any eu member can find t fthee at any Vespa rally. Shoved fully open into any trash can.()
Thinking next tent is the drifter 3.
Read all reports, it only 2x my budget and should fit on eh
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:47 PM   #2
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Same way I do it in the dry. Or by preference , stay in a motel instead if it's really wet.

The main thing is being able to do it FAST without the rest of your gear getting wet. So, the tent packs on top of the other gear and the gear bag IS waterproof. Haul the tent out, shut the waterproof bag, put the tent up, shake the water off the gear bag, toss inside tent to unpack the rest.

Unless you have a double layer tent where the inner walls are all mesh it pretty much just works.

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Old 06-21-2013, 10:28 PM   #3
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fast is not fast enough, hotel is not allways an option

We don't plan, we pull in late. Often in dry counties. That another problem. Pulling in after dark in the rain works great with my tent. I throw it in the air its set. No water ..anything heavy keeps it nailed down.
How do I do that with a real tent ?
2 poles lots of mesh, it's got to get wet. Wail setting it up?
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:50 PM   #4
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How do I do that with a real tent ?
2 poles lots of mesh, it's got to get wet. Wail setting it up?
Option 1

After you set it up, you get out your towel. Use it to dry out, sop up any water inside the tent. When you have the tent dried out inside, move in your gear.

Option 2

Get a tarp of some kind. Set up tarp. Then set up tent underneath tarp.

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Old 06-22-2013, 06:28 AM   #5
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Option 1

After you set it up, you get out your towel. Use it to dry out, sop up any water inside the tent. When you have the tent dried out inside, move in your gear.
I've used this option more than once.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:39 AM   #6
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Option 2

Get a tarp of some kind. Set up tarp. Then set up tent underneath tarp.

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Old 06-22-2013, 10:13 PM   #7
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We don't plan, we pull in late. Often in dry counties. That another problem. Pulling in after dark in the rain works great with my tent. I throw it in the air its set. No water ..anything heavy keeps it nailed down.
How do I do that with a real tent ?
2 poles lots of mesh, it's got to get wet. Wail setting it up?
Don't get a tent with lots of mesh windows ?. Or spend a little more and get the one with the velcro down panels over the windows.

It's only mesh that's a problem, the normal nylon inner is "waterproof enough" that you can get it up with the inside staying dry. They aren't up to sustained downpours alone, but a few minutes isn't a problem.

Two of you, easy, one of you lays out the ground mat and the tent inner while the other assembles the poles, one holds a corner in place while the other clips the poles and does the other corner, repeat for the other pole. Then both of you put the fly over the top.

It's the clever very expensive hiking tents that are a bastard and a half, you need an amazing memory, the instruction sheet, four arms and an IQ somewhere north of Einsteins to assemble those buggers.

The low end ones are designed for idiots and go up easy ;)

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Old 06-23-2013, 03:00 AM   #8
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If it's raining or forecast to rain, I've been known to sleep under a roof.



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Old 06-23-2013, 04:47 AM   #9
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Tarp first. Can even tie it off from the handlebars to give the luggage some rain protection as well..

Setting up in rain is one problem, but if the ground is wet it'll eventually get thru your tent and into some of your other gear.Packing back up with wet gear will create another problem. A large tarp, say 12x12 will go a long way I keeping you dry. I'd plan for a motel after a few days of wet camping. Just to dry and freshen up the gear.
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:12 AM   #10
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If you ever go anywhere it actually rains*, you really want a fly-first or better yet, a pitch-as-one tent.

If you're carrying a tarp anyway, an 'inner-first' tent is much less of an issue. Having to carry a tarp (and having the hassle of setting one up) specifically to mitigate against the problem, however, is a bit silly.

I have only ever owned one inner-first tent. I still have it and I do still use it occasionally, on very short trips, where it's unlikely to rain. Every tent I have bought since, however, I have simply disregarded options that were not fly-first/pitch-as-one.

*please refrain from posting how one time you pitched your inner-first tent in a light drizzle and it wasn't wet inside by the time you got your fly on. If this is true, it wasn't properly raining.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:01 AM   #11
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Just get another Quechua tent. They're all over Ebay.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:16 AM   #12
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I always bring extra large plastic bags (trash bags), I used them to hold my wet and dirty stuff inside of the tent, as soon as it is in the tent I flip them outside in, and put all the wet/dirty stuff inside and the tent is always clean and dry. Yes you are going to get the tent wet on the inside, that is when a towel comes handy and after inside of the plastic bag it goes.

Set the tent up under some cover, a tree most likely this will avoid much of the water out, if not tree then make sure the tent is always zipped up before pitching it or keep the rain fly over it as you pitch it, practice and you will see that it becomes quite easy.

By the way, can't you replace the broken part of your tent?
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:31 AM   #13
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The Coleman 3-man "instant" tent (smallest they make) weighs in at about 9lbs, so 3x as much as the Quechua 2-man and is definitely bulkier.

Free-standing, goes up in 25secs with two people, about 35secs with one person. Completely waterproof; Quechua is only water resistant.

$100 from Coleman, $90 from Overstock.com

Here's a set-up video
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:16 PM   #14
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As mentioned some tents, like my Marmot Limelight, can be set up with the ground cloth and rainfly first. Another option would be a single wall tent that doesn't use a separate fly, such as the Marmot Alpinist. Good single wall tents are usually in the upper price range and they don't breath as well.

You can also string a tarp over the tent site before you pitch the tent.

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Old 06-24-2013, 11:36 PM   #15
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This makes me miss my now departed single wall tent
You laid it out, staking the corners, then move inside in do the poles from inside the tent, while staying mostly dry.

tent flys suck when it comes to putting up a tent in the rain.
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