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Old 06-27-2013, 07:13 PM   #91
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Do you really think there are substantial performance differences in their bikes?
At this level of racing it doesnt matter that its substantial or not.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:17 PM   #92
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Do you really think there are substantial performance differences in their bikes?
Do you really think that the factory would allow their satellite bikes to have the same performance????
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:28 PM   #93
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Man, if Dani boy doesn't win the championship this year, not sure what he can do.
Keep racing till he's too hurt or old to keep going? He's been dealt shitty cards some seasons. He can retire with his head high even without a WC.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:53 PM   #94
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Do you really think that the factory would allow their satellite bikes to have the same performance????
I see this suggestion a lot, and not sure what to make of it.

Sure, humans are manipulative little beings and will do a lot to preserve pride, save face or whatever.

However ... apart from possible efforts in that direction from the factory engineers, why would it be in, say, Factory Yamaha's interest to nobble Crutchlow's bike, even slightly?

Might any difference between the factory and satellite Yamahas not be down to resources: the factory team is developing the bike from the feedback of Lorenzo and to a lesser extent Rossi, and chooses not to spread its efforts so far as to give new parts to Crutchlow for testing.

Rather, Crutchlow gets stuff the others have tested and liked. No?

So, on a factory team, it would not be so much that Crutchlow's bike was better, but that he would have more of a say in developing it.

After all, "better" at this level is very fine margins and a very individual thing. As we've seen, Lorenzo thinks his present chassis is better but Rossi has tried it and prefers his own shorter set-up.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:54 PM   #95
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:57 PM   #96
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Do you really think there are substantial performance differences in their bikes?
Well, yes, but raw bike performance doesn't always help.

Ducati possibly have more engine power, look at how well they are doing ?.

Suspension is likely very close, frame close, beyond that it's subtle things, like how the COG of bike AND rider works out at various places around the track. Not belittling Crutchlow's skill, but I suspect part of why he's doing well is that either the bike just works for him or he's been able to adapt his riding style to get that little bit more out of it in the corners and under brakes relative to the factory bikes - doesn't make up for being down on power on the straights, elsewhere though ...

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Old 06-27-2013, 10:46 PM   #97
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Might any difference between the factory and satellite Yamahas not be down to resources: the factory team is developing the bike from the feedback of Lorenzo and to a lesser extent Rossi, and chooses not to spread its efforts so far as to give new parts to Crutchlow for testing.

So, on a factory team, it would not be so much that Crutchlow's bike was better, but that he would have more of a say in developing it.
This. Even Poncheral has stated that Crutchlow's equipment is top shelf and equivalent. Underdog-champions apparently prefer not to accept his word.

But if there was a preference that Cal believed would make HIM faster, Yamaha are not going to focus development on it - they advance for the fastest guy: Lorenzo.
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Definitely it was the new chassis or a suspension change that allowed the bike to work better with the new front tire but I also think DP turned it up a notch. The head to head battle with JLo that he won and also causing Stoner to bin it in Germany while trying to keep up with DP. That race with JLo was a turning point for Pedrosa mentally IMO. I don' think I was the only one to recognize that instead of what we were used to seeing where DP would seem to settle he fought back and won. I just think in some of the races this year where DP has been passed towards the end and hasn't mounted much of a retaliation we are seeing what we saw at the beginning of last year and then in the 2nd half of the year he didn't back off.
I think DP showed in 2012, that he can fight hard for race wins, when that is necessary. He came very close to winning the title as well. This year, and especially now with JLo´s injury, it looks even better for him at this point. He may not even have to risk it all to get a win, and he´ll be wise enough to know, that right now he might be better off that way. But if he has to fight, I don´t think he´ll have a problem with that at all.

For Kevin Schwantz´ sake, I really do hope DP gets it all together this year...
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:00 AM   #99
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I really like Cal.

He has a personality (maybe sometimes a bit TOO outspoken) as opposed to some of the bots in MotoGP.

Hope he gets a 100% factory ride next year, or better Yamaha support, like Bradl gets from HRC.
Cal has signed a 2 year deal with Ducati.
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Rumour has is that JAYLOW is on a plane back from Barcelona after succesful surgery and will run practise again today and perhaps race tomorrow!
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Marquez has a huge crash trying slicks on a drying track.

Looks OK, but OUCH.
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:49 AM   #102
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Rumour has is that JAYLOW is on a plane back from Barcelona after succesful surgery and will run practise again today and perhaps race tomorrow!
JLo would need to participate in Q1 and/or Q2 today in order to participate in the race tomorrow, right?

wow, that Marquez highside was also brutal... very glad to see him walk away from there, albeit clearly banged up.
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:51 AM   #103
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:52 AM   #104
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