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Old 07-03-2013, 05:16 AM   #16
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My only issue with straps that just cinch is that as the load compresses from vibration, the cinch straps become loose. The ROX Straps do not.
This is the big feature that everyone talks about as benefit of Rok straps, but I have to say I have never experienced this. I use simple and cheap sleeping bag straps (3/4"-1" webbing with cinch buckles), and cinch loads down nice and tight (I loath things moving around). I have never had to adjust or tighten any strap, in fact I could back them off likely and still be plenty secure.




I guess I just don't understand how an elastic portion in a strap could possibly be better? I don't know anyone who uses elastic cord to strap down precious cargo, say your motorcycle in a truck or trailer?

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Old 07-03-2013, 05:22 AM   #17
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My only issue with straps that just cinch is that as the load compresses from vibration, the cinch straps become loose. The ROX Straps do not.

If you want them local, they are available at REI and many MC stores.

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Cinch them harder, you pussy. I use them on my compressible
camping gear bag (tent, pad, sleeping bag) and they've never come loose.

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Old 07-03-2013, 05:25 AM   #18
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Cinch them harder, you pussy. I use them on my compressible
camping gear bag (tent, pad, sleeping bag) and they've never come loose.
The key there is you said compressible bag, sure any strap can do fine with that. The Rok straps excel at keeping anything in place, including more solid items, which is where normal cinch straps can come loose from constant vibrations.

One more vote for Rok straps from me, got two pairs on sale and they are a fantastic product.
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Old 07-03-2013, 05:47 AM   #19
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I have some of the Helen2Wheels straps. I don't tend to use them. What I do tend to use is rope with a trucker's knot. Rope is cheap and I don't mind trimming it to length.
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Old 07-03-2013, 06:09 AM   #20
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The key there is you said compressible bag, sure any strap can do fine with that. The Rok straps excel at keeping anything in place, including more solid items, which is where normal cinch straps can come loose from constant vibrations.

One more vote for Rok straps from me, got two pairs on sale and they are a fantastic product.
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The Rubber in the ROK Straps is NOT like the cheap multi-strand rubber in bungee cords. It is solid rubber. I have never seen one break.

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Old 07-03-2013, 06:20 AM   #21
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Rok Straps FTMFW.

My bike is used as a mule, so I have 3 pairs.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:48 AM   #22
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The Rubber in the ROK Straps is NOT like the cheap multi-strand rubber in bungee cords. It is solid rubber. I have never seen one break.

Jim
Good Lord Jim... I know that you are kind of the resident King as far as do it yourself maintenance, but this toolkit looks to be a bit extreme for road trips--even for a GS!
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:52 AM   #23
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I use 1" webbing and buckles from West Marine and build exactly what I need.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:59 AM   #24
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:38 AM   #25
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Good Lord Jim... I know that you are kind of the resident King as far as do it yourself maintenance, but this toolkit looks to be a bit extreme for road trips--even for a GS!


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Old 07-03-2013, 12:39 PM   #26
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Another military 1" webbing gear and kayaking strap user here. The ROK strap just did not secure things well enough for me when I ride off-road. The ROK stuff works fine on decent roads or when stretched really tight but I just kept losing things on rough roads and trail.

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Old 07-03-2013, 01:49 PM   #27
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This is the big feature that everyone talks about as benefit of Rok straps, but I have to say I have never experienced this. I use simple and cheap sleeping bag straps (3/4"-1" webbing with cinch buckles), and cinch loads down nice and tight (I loath things moving around). I have never had to adjust or tighten any strap, in fact I could back them off likely and still be plenty secure.




I guess I just don't understand how an elastic portion in a strap could possibly be better? I don't know anyone who uses elastic cord to strap down precious cargo, say your motorcycle in a truck or trailer?
To corroborate with that... I go to my local BMW dealer and for $1 I get the used straps BMWs are strapped on for their cross continent travels. If BMW trusts them, I will trust them too.

Not elastic, not rockstraps. Just a simple cinch process with strong material. Once you set it, it stays.

One negative is that they are white. I don't care. One positive is that you can cut them to the length you need.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:12 PM   #28
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I make my own. Polypro webbing and whatever style of buckles I need.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:41 PM   #29
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c'mon. you're contributing to the pussification of the American male.

get some of this:

and learn ya some of these:

http://www.scouting.org.za/resources...BasicKnots.pdf

when the revolution comes, you'll be ahead of the others.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:52 PM   #30
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c'mon. you're contributing to the pussification of the American male.

get some of this:

and learn ya some of these:

http://www.scouting.org.za/resources...BasicKnots.pdf

when the revolution comes, you'll be ahead of the others.
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