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Old 10-16-2013, 07:29 AM   #16
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Go climb a hill with those sprockets on.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:40 AM   #17
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Go climb a hill with those sprockets on.
No problem with hills:

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Old 10-16-2013, 10:03 AM   #18
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Go climb a hill with those sprockets on.

says the "expert" with NO ktm 690 r !!!!!
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:13 AM   #19
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No problem with hills:

i see one hell of a great afternoon in just that one picture!

I'm waiting for the 2014 aswell, wonder what they are gonna change and stuff. If it's not to my liking im gonna try to find a knocking deal on a 2013.
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:05 AM   #20
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I doubt if there are any major changes coming for the 2014. There may be slight changes but the can probably be added to a 2013. Guess we'll just have to wait and see...
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:07 PM   #21
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I think we'll see the Duke engine and ride-by-wire throttle in 2014

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Old 10-16-2013, 04:33 PM   #22
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Though I don't know how far back it goes in model years, I thought the current 690's already have a wired throttle that is not mechanical linkage. Isn't this one of the essential components to the ignition mapping options?
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:54 AM   #23
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Its a big difference

The Duke has a full ride-by-wire set up - the 690E/SMC has an ECU override on the throttle body that can adjust the throttle response.

The Duke also has the twin-spark engine which makes 70Bhp and is more fuel efficient (I believe)
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:22 AM   #24
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EU 2013 models have the full ride by wire already, that makes me quite sure the US models will have it in the next model there.
Twinspark head I dont know, never checked but I think it is.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:13 AM   #25
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EU 2013 models have the full ride by wire already, that makes me quite sure the US models will have it in the next model there.
Twinspark head I dont know, never checked but I think it is.
No they don't, mechanical throttle on my 2013 EU 690 SMC-R with 67 HP.

Also single plug head, although I doubt that the twin spark design can really add a 5% improvement if the rest stays the same?
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:30 AM   #26
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Don't take my word for it:

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Old 10-17-2013, 06:18 AM   #27
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I know that the Duke R has a bit more power, but I don't think it's the dual spark head, something else must be different.

The normal Duke (non R) also has a dual spark head and only 67 HP:

http://www.ktm.com/naked-bike/690-du...l#.Ul_i0haxqS0

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Old 10-17-2013, 10:37 AM   #28
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still amazing to be pushing 1hp per 10cc on a sales floor thumper
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:37 AM   #29
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I know that the Duke R has a bit more power, but I don't think it's the dual spark head, something else must be different.

The normal Duke (non R) also has a dual spark head and only 67 HP:

http://www.ktm.com/naked-bike/690-du...l#.Ul_i0haxqS0
"...the legendary LC4 uses a freer-breathing Akrapovic titanium silencer for even deeper bass an an extra two horses as a result. 70 all in all..." The Duke also has a pre-silencer under the engine. The Enduro or SMC have not. Those extra horses are over the non-R Duke version. Not sure what the pre-silencer adds.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:23 PM   #30
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This bike has been in production for several years now. What makes you think that KTM might be tweaking the gear ratios for 2014?
Listening to most cycle rag reviews and consumers echoing the sentiments perhaps.... wishing for wider gearing
They lengthened the stroke after all these years. Gearing could be considered.
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