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Old 11-01-2013, 02:45 PM   #46
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Any word on gearing?
None, so don't expect any changes or we would have heard about it already.
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:43 PM   #47
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[QUOTE=LukasM;22686703]None, so don't expect any changes or we would have heard about it already.[/QUOT

Gearing same as before
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Old 11-02-2013, 01:03 PM   #48
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None, so don't expect any changes or we would have heard about it already.
Gearing same as before
All 690's should come standard with the Rally Raid chain/clutch front sprocket protection guard - period!




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Old 11-03-2013, 02:36 AM   #49
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No they don't, mechanical throttle on my 2013 EU 690 SMC-R with 67 HP.

Also single plug head, although I doubt that the twin spark design can really add a 5% improvement if the rest stays the same?
I think I know the diffrence.. don't know about your smcr as my post is about the enduro. Check out the photos on page 3.
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:10 AM   #50
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I think I know the diffrence.. don't know about your smcr as my post is about the enduro. Check out the photos on page 3.
Well your post was about the 2013 EU models, and the Duke was the only model that had fly by wire throttle then. It is a completely different bike (starting with a single tube backbone frame with a front mounted gas tank vs. trellis frame and rear tank) than the Enduro and SMC-R, which are apparently getting the Duke engine and throttle for 2014.

FYI the SMC-R is the same bike as the Enduro except for suspension, wheels and brakes.
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:26 AM   #51
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I think I know the diffrence.. don't know about your smcr as my post is about the enduro. Check out the photos on page 3.
My 2013 enduro has the mechanical cables combined with the EPT.
The 2014 lacks those cables so it seems to share the ride-by-wire of the duke.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:09 PM   #52
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2014 690R changes

I was looking around Rally Raid and found this:

https://www.facebook.com/RallyRaidProducts

there are 11 pics to look at.....

here's the brief writeup:

KTM 690 Enduro R 2014 (11 photos)
We saw the first KTM 690 Enduro R model for 2014 today at the Dirt Bike Show in the UK.
Overall, the bike looked same as previous, but closer inspection noted the following:
1,ABS added front & rear
2.Twin-plug 690 Duke motor fitted.
3.Lower fork changed to allow fitment of ABS sensor.
4.New electronic throttle from Duke 690, and new throttle/front brake cluster.
5.Frame looked the same, apart from repositioned rear brake reservoir, and coil removed to as 690 Duke motor has twin-plug head, with inboard coils.
6.Forks changed to left leg compression damping, right leg rebound damping.
7.New airbox, with repositioned sensors.
8.New ECU, only 1 fitted now.
All in all a nice little package, available February/March 2014.Price as 2013.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:42 AM   #53
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New cylinder head, dual ignition, ABS with roll-over protection, greater fuel mileage, new forks....

Official info at:
http://www.ktm.com/au/news-events/ei...c4-enduro.html
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:24 AM   #54
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I wonder whether the tuneecu software will work with the new ride by wire. I'd sure hate to lose the ability to use tuneecu on the 690.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:47 AM   #55
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I wonder whether the tuneecu software will work with the new ride by wire. I'd sure hate to lose the ability to use tuneecu on the 690.
That could be a deal breaker for the 2014 model. I would prefer 2013 than.

The current 2013 duke has the ride by wire engine, is it possible to use tuneecu with this engine?
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:45 AM   #56
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That could be a deal breaker for the 2014 model. I would prefer 2013 than.

The current 2013 duke has the ride by wire engine, is it possible to use tuneecu with this engine?
There is still a mechanical connection between the throttle and throttle body. The 'older' 690 engines have an EPT system that is commonly mistaken as a ride-by-wire system that has only an electrical connection.
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the rider’s twistgrip commands are interpreted by an advanced ride-by-wire throttle system; KTM’s “EPT” (Electronic Power Throttle) which optimizes intake vacuum and also allows various engine “modes” for different conditions.
My '13 enduro has the same system as the older ones. So yes, TuneECU is possible on the '13.
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Old 11-05-2013, 12:39 PM   #57
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No tuneECU - the twin spark engine is canbus not compatible with tuneECU

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Old 11-05-2013, 12:51 PM   #58
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No tuneECU - the twin spark engine is canbus not compatible with tuneECU

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When will wheelie control be mandated? Probably get that before WR trans.

It has CAN Bus system with ABS and DbW so the gubmint can control your speed where necessary, like posted speed areas and dirt-where you may hurt yourself otherwise.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:20 PM   #59
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I doubt you'll be able to miss anything with KTM marketing, even stuff they did a couple years ago will be an update. They changed the seat foam on the 14 dirt bikes and it's news.

On the bright side it looks like the 14 street bikes will be in the US early, hopefully first of the year instead of May......
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:26 AM   #60
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i am facing a dilemma, please help with some advice.

i could get a very good deal on a new leftover 2010 model now. or i could wait and see what is up with the new 2014 model. the 2014 model seems to be quite a bit more complicated with all the drive by wire, but it has ABS which is nice. the 2010 is a more simple and proven version.

how big an issue is the no tune ECU?!?
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