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Old 07-11-2013, 06:12 AM   #16
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Point conceded. Can we get back to vans now please?
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:34 AM   #17
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Nice Van

This set up is pretty sweet, but will probably kill you at the pump.
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:46 AM   #18
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Its really a shame the US doesn't make a high MPG mid sized van. The euro - diesel vans get 30mpg and none use the latest tech.

The Nissan NV 200 is a step in the right direction - but no diesel and not as nice as the cool eurovans in the UK. However, its way more affordable and coming to the US in 2014. Will be under engined if you load it up with more than a trials bike.

http://www.nissancommercialvehicles....bal.nv200.link
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:50 AM   #19
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Its really a shame the US doesn't make a high MPG mid sized van. The euro - diesel vans get 30mpg and none use the latest tech.

The Nissan NV 200 is a step in the right direction - but no diesel and not as nice as the cool eurovans in the UK. However, its way more affordable and coming to the US in 2014. Will be under engined if you load it up with more than a trials bike.

http://www.nissancommercialvehicles....bal.nv200.link
Man, between the Nissan Juke, Cube, and that new van, if I was a member of Nissan's design team I would have to commit sepuku for the dishonor of unleashing such ugly vehicles on the world.

Anyway, a few years ago we owned a "Dodge" Sprinter van. It was one of the V6 turbo-diesels in the high-roof passenger style. I pulled the two back seats out and had room for two full-sized trials bikes, a Gas-Gas 50, and two OSET 16.0's. Pulling a small camping trailer the rig got 20-22 mpg. Unfortunately, diesel shot up to ~$4.60 a gallon, and the Sprinter was lousy on snowy roads or in high winds.

I was just browsing the web in re: the Nissan NV passenger van, and I stumbled upon the fact that Quigley can now upfit the Nissans to 4x4 as they do the Fords and GMC/Chevys (http://www.quigley4x4.com/Products/NissanProducts.aspx). Decent towing capacity even with the V6. Adds about $11k to the new price, so not cheap, but 4x4 adds functionality trials riders often find useful.

The value I see to a full-sized van is many-fold:
1. For just a day event you get a place to store the bike and gear out of the elements, with room to change out of grungy clothes at the end of the day.
2. For an overnight solo, there's room to sleep as long as you aren't insistent on creature comforts and don't need secure storage for the bike outside (i.e., camping).
3. For bringing the family, most vans (especially in long wheelbase flavor) can haul three or even four bikes AND carry four or five people AND tow a decent-sized travel trailer.
4. For road trips, vans just bring a little extra piece of mind that open pickups and trailers can't match.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:58 AM   #20
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I know, I'm getting to be a thread starter whore. Ban me.

Seriously though. I have a Silverado so carrying the bike isn't the issue. My concern is when you have an over nighter & can't get the bike into the hotel room. Sure, I could get a thirty foot cable & route is through the wheels, frame, & trailer hitch, but who wants to deal with that after a long day of sections? And first thing in the morning of day two, I think not.

So I'm looking at vans. Full size, mini in the genre of Astro. That sort of thing so I can lock the bike behind closed doors & sleep well. Well enough that old muscles allow anyway.

I remember back in the seventies how flat trackers would close off the back of their Dodge Maxivans for the bike & equipment, & build a bed above the rear seat. Any of you go that far?

Tell us what you have, & if it's custom at all pics would be most appreciated.

Thanks for your tolerance.
How often will you be needing this security? I know it's not a van, but a small enclosed trailer will give you similar security at much less cost. Sure, you can buy used Astro vans cheap (had one, loved it), but factor in insurance, maintenance, etc. and the trailer becomes a significant savings.

Just another angle to consider...
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:00 AM   #21
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The value I see to a full-sized van is many-fold:
1. For just a day event you get a place to store the bike and gear out of the elements, with room to change out of grungy clothes at the end of the day.
2. For an overnight solo, there's room to sleep as long as you aren't insistent on creature comforts and don't need secure storage for the bike outside (i.e., camping).
3. For bringing the family, most vans (especially in long wheelbase flavor) can haul three or even four bikes AND carry four or five people AND tow a decent-sized travel trailer.
4. For road trips, vans just bring a little extra piece of mind that open pickups and trailers can't match.
That nails my thoughts perfectly.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:30 AM   #22
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This works only for very short hauls.



But for longer trips I use this...

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Old 07-11-2013, 11:14 AM   #23
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Definitely hold out for a long wheel based van with big motor. Your mileage will not be much different (they all get shitty mileage) why not have a motor you don't cuss. Sliding door is another plus in my opinion, insulate and panel sides and roof. Cut in a roof mounted fan, one that will pull in and out air. Lots of options to dress it out. Mine is a work in progress, just wish I could have afforded a diesel, next time.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:22 AM   #24
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What if??

Save the headaches of buying someone used van, just buy a small enclosed trailer in the $1500.00 area.....
You have the truck already to pull it..
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:04 PM   #25
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van

Sorry I can't show a picture right now.

I use a van. It has many uses. I have a thin piece of plywood about 3 by 41/2 feet. I have it set up for three bikes. Simple door hinge holds a 2x4 that is attached to the plywood, with a piece of rope to holds it from opening to far. I have these mounted at a stagger so the handle bars don't hit each other. It slides in and out of the van easy. I will try to post a picture.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:10 PM   #26
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Maybe this will explain myself
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:13 PM   #27
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Something like this

Check back, I am loading it now. camping for the weekend.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:42 PM   #28
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Man, between the Nissan Juke, Cube, and that new van, if I was a member of Nissan's design team I would have to commit sepuku for the dishonor of unleashing such ugly vehicles on the world.
LOL - Especially the Juke convertible is about as ugly as they get! I dont mind the NV 200 so much as the drive train looks low budget. I drove a Ford connect and it reminded me of driving a mail truck. Anemic 4 banger coupled to a old 3 speed auto. What a POS drive train and rattle box.

I think a true mid sized van - maybe a foot longer than the NV200, tall enough for a dirt bike, and a 2.5L diesel that hit 40mpg hwy would be a hit. My 2.0L VW gets 44mpg towing a open AL trailer gets 44MPG with my bike on it. So I think its doable.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:54 PM   #29
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I love these new Mercedes/Dodge vans. A friend has the shorter one in white and hauls a small caper trailer to events.

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Old 07-12-2013, 09:40 AM   #30
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Or .... Camp right at the event. It's a lot more fun and cheaper than a hotel.
just my 2 cents.
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