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Old 08-02-2013, 02:56 AM   #46
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Well done Australia, good to see some fight.
I thought England bowled pretty well on a batsman's pitch, stuck at it.
We might actually get 5 days out of this test!

I am an old (school) cricket lover, and would be happy if we returned to just having the umpire make the call.
I know. Aint going to happen.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:26 AM   #47
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Providence smiles on the English. Saved by the rain.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:42 PM   #48
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Providence smiles on the English. Saved by the rain.
Providence smiles on me.
I've talked Herindoors into a trip to Melbourne on Boxing Day.
A coupla days at the cricket while she goes shopping...
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:07 AM   #49
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Silicon tape scandal!
Oh the humanity...
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:01 PM   #51
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There's a lot of things to like about Australians. Their petulance when they lose is not one of them.
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:57 PM   #52
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There's a lot of things to like about Australians. Their petulance when they lose is not one of them.
They seem to be very competitive in the area of trash journalism

The stupidity in this story (it was flashed as "breaking news" on the TV channel in question) is various:
  • Putting tape on yer cricket bat is not against the rules.
  • The tape would work against the batsman in a LBW appeal.
  • Pietersen was given out without a hotspot.
  • There is some doubt, and no proof that the tape will work.

And if any Aussies dare start crapping on about "the spirit of the game", please refer them to:
  • The underarm incident.
  • Dyer is a liar incident.
  • The sledging of Chris Cairns (Aussies making "choo choo" noises after Cairns' sister was killed in a train accident).
  • Etc, etc, etc..
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:32 PM   #53
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Again, what I find interesting is the awkward attempt to use electronic aids in officiating cricket. The technology clearly isn't there yet, the Indians are right about something for once, and the longer they use subpar technology the less people will trust any future technology, no matter how efficacious, because of these initial bad experiences. Once bitten, twice shy.
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Again, what I find interesting is the awkward attempt to use electronic aids in officiating cricket. The technology clearly isn't there yet, the Indians are right about something for once, and the longer they use subpar technology the less people will trust any future technology, no matter how efficacious, because of these initial bad experiences. Once bitten, twice shy.
The aids, with the exception of Hot Spot (which, someone correct me if I am wrong, is not used in an official capacity ?) work just fine. The problem is the interpretation of said aids by the umpires. The majority of elite umpires are either English/British or Australian. Some of those left to officiate during the present series are, shall we say, shite.

Once again....you talk crap.

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The aids, with the exception of Hot Spot (which, someone correct me if I am wrong, is not used in an official capacity ?) work just fine. The problem is the interpretation of said aids by the umpires. The majority of elite umpires are either English/British or Australian. Some of those left to officiate during the present series are, shall we say, shite.

Once again....you talk crap.

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The hotspot is in official use, it's the "snicko" that isn't (although the third umpire can listen to the stump mic).

The use of electronic aids is not (and I doubt will ever be) perfect, but it does mean that the margin of error is further reduced.

I can understand the Indians reluctance when it comes to hotspot and the LBW thingo, but for line calls (no balls, stumpings and run outs), catches and boundary calls the benefits are obvious.
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The hotspot is in official use, it's the "snicko" that isn't (although the third umpire can listen to the stump mic).

The use of electronic aids is not (and I doubt will ever be) perfect, but it does mean that the margin of error is further reduced.

I can understand the Indians reluctance when it comes to hotspot and the LBW thingo, but for line calls (no balls, stumpings and run outs), catches and boundary calls the benefits are obvious.
Ah, thanks, I knew there was something the TV folks used but wasn't an 'official' aid.

I have no problem with the aids actually, they just need to be interpreted correctly. Oh, and challenges need to be handled correctly...are you listening Australia
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:53 AM   #57
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I certainly hope our ghosts leave Mr Watson alone this time, don't want to give channel 9 any more ammo.
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:14 PM   #58
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The hotspot is in official use, it's the "snicko" that isn't (although the third umpire can listen to the stump mic).

The use of electronic aids is not (and I doubt will ever be) perfect, but it does mean that the margin of error is further reduced.

I can understand the Indians reluctance when it comes to hotspot and the LBW thingo, but for line calls (no balls, stumpings and run outs), catches and boundary calls the benefits are obvious.
The snickerdoodle is being upgraded to bring it closer to real time and to synchronize it with the visual aids. I'm a distant observer, but that technology seems more promising than hotspot.

But the reason I think they're playing with fire right now isn't purely the accuracy of the devices. What makes them work is confidence in them.

Tennis' HawkEye is accepted without question by everyone in the game. This, despite the fact that they have no idea if it's 100% accurate.

So why do they accept it? Because everyone in the sports has arrived at a compact: they will accept HawkEye as the final word. That trust, that acceptance, ends arguments and allows them to get on with the game.

The lesson is that these electronic aids only work when people agree that the results they produce are to be accepted without question. And right now that unanimity doesn't exist in cricket.

The longer they go using aids before they're ready, the more damage they do to the long-term viability of electronic aids in cricket. And that's because because everyone in the sport, including spectators, is losing confidence in them. And confidence is the key, the vital ingredient.
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The founder of HawkEye says the same thing. Cricket has rushed electronic aids into service without adequate testing and before they're ready.

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"What cricket hasn't done as much as other sports is test anything," said Hawkins, speaking at the launch of the first foray by football into the world of technologically assisted officiating at the Emirates Stadium.

"This [football's Goal Decision System] has been very, very heavily tested whereas cricket's hasn't really undergone any testing. It's almost like it has tested it in live conditions so they are inheriting broadcast technology rather than developing officiating technology."
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Old 08-12-2013, 01:00 PM   #60
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Fantastic Test.

I thought that the Aussies were going to take this one, their openers were brilliant, especially Warner. Had they won it still would have been a thoroughly enjoyable Test to watch.

On the technology. It's not really fair to compare it to tennis where the only call is on the line or not (same will apply when it's used on the goal line in football).

There's a hell of a lot of things to consider in an LBW decision.
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