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Old 07-18-2013, 06:23 PM   #16
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That's a pretty bike... any more info on it?


...and in the spirit of the OP's link I'm gonna have to say the Harrier jet was the ultimate thumper... could take off like a helicopter but fly like a plane and shoot things!
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:26 AM   #17
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:38 AM   #18
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:53 AM   #19
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The OP may have blown it in his first post, but he does bring up an interesting question.

What is the "ultimate" thumper?

Thoughts?

Even though I just bought an XR600, I think the "ultimate" thumper is the KLR.

IMHO if you want an affordable, versatile, easilly maintained, do everything motorcycle, the KLR is your best bet.

YMMV.

That's just the thing,not everybody wants a versatile,easily maintained,do everything,affordable thumper.
Many want a thumper with actual performance that doesnt weigh as much as a twin,with say,an engine designed within the last 5 years,instead of 1986.

A KLR is the very best KLR made,and not much else. They work, and many people like em a lot.

Others want a 300lb 250 4 stroke and consider it the ultimate thumper,others want a 50+ hp 500 fire breathing street legal dirtbike that weighs less then the 25hp 250 thumper.

Ultimate can only be ultimate for who ever wants it.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:00 AM   #20
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ultimate thumper: XR650 hands down

Watch the Baja races...

IMHO, I think it's the best because you literally can buy it at a dealer one day, then take it to race in the BAJA 1000 the next and be competitive (if your a good rider). Then if you want to ride long distance, get a softer seat, maybe a larger gas tank or extra jerry rig, and a set of moderate dual sport tires.


Plus, it is rock solid reliable and its as simple as a pencil. All maintenence can be done in your own garage. Plus it's quite powerful...

The only thing some folks have a issue with is seat height really...

One last thing- if your a savy CL shopper, you can pick up an early 2000's bike for less than 2K. And the later 2000's models frequently go for 2500-3500ish. That's not a lot of cash to spend on Baja/offroad royalty
They did quit building these a while ago,the lack of electric start kills the buzz for many people.
The XR650R's raced in Baja didnt exactly come off the showroom floor and win Baja. Honda spent huge wads of cash to ensure they won.
Seat heidth and weight are an issue for many with these 650's,but they do have a big following.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:52 AM   #21
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+1 more for the xr650, they aren't terrible to crank once you get used to it
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:55 AM   #22
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They did quit building these a while ago,the lack of electric start kills the buzz for many people.
The XR650R's raced in Baja didnt exactly come off the showroom floor and win Baja. Honda spent huge wads of cash to ensure they won.
Seat heidth and weight are an issue for many with these 650's,but they do have a big following.

That's about what I was thinking too.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:57 AM   #23
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+1 more for the xr650, they aren't terrible to crank once you get used to it
They are terrible to crank when it's 95 degrees and you are perched precariously on the side of a snotty, root covered hill.

no e-start is a deal killer.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:57 AM   #24
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And who would think that taking 1/5 of a radial engine designed for antique airplanes and putting it in a bike frame would be the ultimate anything? I guess if your ultimate bike has a cg up around your neck, you would be ultimately dead off road.

XRs, but mainly the XRR, once again.
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:02 AM   #25
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They are terrible to crank when it's 95 degrees and you are perched precariously on the side of a snotty, root covered hill.

no e-start is a deal killer.

Whatever did those old timers do? Seriously, I ride plenty of e-start bikes, and rarely they start as easily as my xrr. Finding nuetral to start an e-start bike is every bit as hard as pulling the clutch and kicking my pig.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:46 PM   #26
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Hello there,
sorry to spoil all of your thinking:
it's the Suzuki DR 750 and 800!
Or something like a Norton Manx, BSA Gold Star or Matchless G 50. Everything else is just a try ...
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:36 AM   #27
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What's the best oil to use in a thumper?
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:44 AM   #28
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The Best thumper is the KTM 690 Enduro R. No I don't have one but I have a friend who does. Weighs the same as my DRZ, good suspension and brakes. Doesn't require the maintenance of the race motor KTM's and has 65 hp in full power mode or just a mere 50 when turned down. You don't want to be behind one on a gravel road or trail. I would love to have one but it cost twice what my DRZ did. They also make a monster Supermoto bike.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:00 AM   #29
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Hard for me to give up my Husky TE610. It has been rock solid in terms of reliability and while it doesn't have the power of the 690 it is very tractable. Decent road machine and great off road for two-track and even some light single track.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:44 AM   #30
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Whatever did those old timers do? Seriously, I ride plenty of e-start bikes, and rarely they start as easily as my xrr. Finding nuetral to start an e-start bike is every bit as hard as pulling the clutch and kicking my pig.
Your pulling our legs,making a funny?

Neutral must be found to kick start a bike 9 times out of ten,there's still a clutch with drag involved.
Its the first thing pro MX'ers do when they stall during a race,click,clikety,click finding neutral,then kick while the race goes on around them.
Unless they're riding a KTM.

Just watching a friend try to start his XR650R on the side of a steep sidehill trail when its hot,hot, out is painful enough. Its a deal breaker.

Hand cranking car engines went out of style in about 1920 something?
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