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Old 07-26-2013, 05:25 PM   #1
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Question Help my buddy choose a bike

Options are:

KTM 990 adventure 2011 6000 Kms $12995 +13% tax

Triumph tiger 800XC 2013 0kms 12699 +13% tax freight pdi etc

Ducati multistrada S 2010 24000kms asking 16000 +13% tax but they're willing to negotiate a fair bit it would seem

He has a Ducati 996 sps that he's going to trade against if it doesn't sell privately, the dealer that has the ktm has offered the best money so that is a factor

He wants to be able to travel, and do some offroad

Thoughts?

Full disclosure: I ride a klr because I'm cheap, let us know what you ride
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:35 PM   #2
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:16 PM   #3
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Options are:

KTM 990 adventure 2011 6000 Kms $12995 +13% tax

Triumph tiger 800XC 2013 0kms 12699 +13% tax freight pdi etc

Ducati multistrada S 2010 24000kms asking 16000 +13% tax but they're willing to negotiate a fair bit it would seem

He has a Ducati 996 sps that he's going to trade against if it doesn't sell privately, the dealer that has the ktm has offered the best money so that is a factor

He wants to be able to travel, and do some offroad

Thoughts?

Full disclosure: I ride a klr because I'm cheap, let us know what you ride
Does your buddy have 30 years experience? Or 30 miles? Abilities? It matters...
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:23 PM   #4
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He's experienced, he's been daily driving the 125hp 160mph 996sps for two seasons now, and the a 748 for a couple seasons before that

Spent a few weeks on a multistrada in Italy

So he can handle the any of these bikes in question
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:03 PM   #5
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The evidence would seem to imply he's a Ducati afficionado, so the Multistrada is an obvious choice. Somehow, however, I imagine he wouldn't be asking if he were entirely happy maintaining that brand allegiance.

They are all good bikes. Personally, I'd lean toward the Ducati for myself (because I want one) or the Triumph for someone else (because I think it is the most sensible compromise of performance, reliability, cost, etc.)

My suggestion is that you flip a coin... Heads - you recommend the KTM, tails - the Triumph. If your buddy hesitates for even a split second, indicating he disagrees with your suggestion then just tell him "F**k it! Get the Ducati. You know it's what you want."

You could always mess with him by insisting he should get a BMW
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Old 07-27-2013, 05:56 AM   #6
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Old 07-27-2013, 07:17 AM   #7
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The evidence would seem to imply he's a Ducati afficionado, so the Multistrada is an obvious choice. Somehow, however, I imagine he wouldn't be asking if he were entirely happy maintaining that brand allegiance.

They are all good bikes. Personally, I'd lean toward the Ducati for myself (because I want one) or the Triumph for someone else (because I think it is the most sensible compromise of performance, reliability, cost, etc.)

My suggestion is that you flip a coin... Heads - you recommend the KTM, tails - the Triumph. If your buddy hesitates for even a split second, indicating he disagrees with your suggestion then just tell him "F**k it! Get the Ducati. You know it's what you want."

You could always mess with him by insisting he should get a BMW
I'm pretty sure he's leaning towards the ktm, financially it's the best deal, the dealer that has it sells both Ducati and ktm, so he'll get better value from the sps

I'm a little partial to the tiger, but I think that may be partly because I really like the styling and ergonomics, (save for the bars being too low, however a set of rox risers fixes that on the cheap.

And unfortunately for BMW I'm of the opinion that the f800gsa has no soul, it's a fantastic machine on paper and I'm sure the build quality is fantastic. As are its capabilities. But it doesn't do a THING for me, and my buddy agrees.
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Not an option, the list above are actual bikes sitting in showrooms.
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Old 07-27-2013, 07:48 AM   #9
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I would go with the Triumph. The KTM has better suspension and the Ducati has some nice features but you just can't beat a Tiger 800XC. The Triple in that bike is intoxicating.
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Not an option, the list above are actual bikes sitting in showrooms.
I'm surprised it took till #6 post and 12 hrs for someone to recommend the bike they want and not one that the OP's buddy wants.

Now let's see how long till someone recommends a KLR.
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I'm pretty sure he's leaning towards the ktm, financially it's the best deal, the dealer that has it sells both Ducati and ktm, so he'll get better value from the sps

I'm a little partial to the tiger, but I think that may be partly because I really like the styling and ergonomics, (save for the bars being too low, however a set of rox risers fixes that on the cheap.

And unfortunately for BMW I'm of the opinion that the f800gsa has no soul, it's a fantastic machine on paper and I'm sure the build quality is fantastic. As are its capabilities. But it doesn't do a THING for me, and my buddy agrees.
Have you ridden one? More offroad, ktm, f800gs, triumph, ducati, more road then reverse the order. My .02
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I'm surprised it took till #6 post and 12 hrs for someone to recommend the bike they want and not one that the OP's buddy wants.

Now let's see how long till someone recommends a KLR.
You can always be sure that when someone states they want suggestions for a low, light bike under $2000, several people will recommend a brand new GS ADV or something with 48" seat height, etc. ...and you're right, there's often at least one recommendation each for a KLR, FJR and (bizarrely) 1200 Sportster as well. That's ADVRider!
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Have you ridden one? More offroad, ktm, f800gs, triumph, ducati, more road then reverse the order. My .02
Yeah I have, and, so has he.
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You can always be sure that when someone states they want suggestions for a low, light bike under $2000, several people will recommend a brand new GS ADV or something with 48" seat height, etc. ...and you're right, there's often at least one recommendation each for a KLR, FJR and (bizarrely) 1200 Sportster as well. That's ADVRider!
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Old 07-28-2013, 04:19 PM   #15
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He wants to "ride some offroad."

What does this mean? Is he riding two up down some 2 mile long graded, gravel road to get to some place that his travels might take him or is he wanting to really learn how to ride off road in all types of conditions?

Has he ever ridden off road? If so how much and how much of what he's done matches up well with how much he plans to do in the future on this new bike?

Does he/you realize if he's going to learn to ride "off road" he's going to fall and scratch the shit out of an investment that costs more than 13 grand in the process of learning this new skill? If you ain't crashin' you aint learnin' on dirt.

I'm not trying to be a jerk but there are a lot more questions to be answered here before deciding on a bike.

If he really wants to "ride some offroad" and his only experience is with a couple of sport bikes then grabbing a giant "Adventure Touring" bike and heading for the trail is a monumentally bad idea. Street experience doesn't mean shit "off road".

If his only experience is with a couple street bikes then he should grab a smaller, cheaper bike that he can resell quickly and learn the basics of off road riding on that, but it's up to him (and apparently you.)
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