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Old 07-29-2013, 08:48 AM   #16
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I own a 1st Gen FZ1 and had a DL1000, and two 1200 Bandits. For the combination
of riding you are talking about I would pick the Strom.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:01 AM   #17
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I've had two bandits as well, the old 1200 and new 1250. The bike is super capable, 2up without throttle adjustment, but the seat ... never could get comfy for anything over 2hours. ok in the dirt, but heavy. Doesn't float much. Torque monster though, and a blast. My buddy kept his just for touring with the GF, while solo with the speed 3le
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:07 AM   #18
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What are some opinions on the FZ1 as a 2-up ride? Momma's got to be comfy...
My wife loves it. Did a 240 mile day ride yesterday. All day comfy for both of us, can even put the soft bags on and it doesn't bother her.

That said, I think its too heavy and peaky for dirt, and its top heavy at that. BUT I'm smaller than you @ 5'8", and my wife is 5'4". So YMMV.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:56 PM   #19
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I'm an experienced rider, so that isn't a problem. I'm also 6'-0". Right now I am riding a KLR650 and like the way it fits, but I want something more sport/street oriented.
A Wee is like a refined KLR with double the horsepower. A Vee has even more.

If you like the KLR, the Wee should be great. If you need to haul ass, 2 up, get the Vee. The Wee has plenty of power for most people, but I understand that some folks need more.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:09 PM   #20
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I got an FZ6, can't imagine it offroad.
Never had mine off road (single/dual track) but I've run a fair bit of gravel.

Light bike with a huge 180 section rear sportbike tire. So, it skates around a fair bit and always keeps you on your toes, but it mostly goes forward.


Srsly for the OP, look at the Tiger 800. Used ones are getting decent money-wise now.
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Old 07-30-2013, 03:44 AM   #21
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Thanks for the opinions everyone. The guy with the Vee won't get back to me, so I may say the hell with him. I'll check into the Tiger as well.
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:32 AM   #22
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A Wee is like a refined KLR with double the horsepower. A Vee has even more.

If you like the KLR, the Wee should be great. If you need to haul ass, 2 up, get the Vee. The Wee has plenty of power for most people, but I understand that some folks need more.
+1

I'd forget about the regular road bikes mentioned in the subject of the thread.
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:34 AM   #23
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Never had mine off road (single/dual track) but I've run a fair bit of gravel.

Light bike with a huge 180 section rear sportbike tire. So, it skates around a fair bit and always keeps you on your toes, but it mostly goes forward.


Srsly for the OP, look at the Tiger 800. Used ones are getting decent money-wise now.
It may be rather light (it's the same weight as the 650R, no?), but it feels
top heavy (it IS top heavy) and that makes me nervous even on the 10-15
ft of grass that I have to go over to park my bike where I live.

On the other hand, the NC700X which is 70-80lbs more - I had that thing
off road on my first ride, standing up, sliding the rear, completely confident.

First time I was offroad on a motorcycle too.
Low CG ftw.

And yeah, the Tiger 800 is probably a good idea (maybe a 800GS even
better for offroad).
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:38 AM   #24
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True off road capability isn't much of a factor for me...I have a dirt bike for that, as long as it will handle the dirt/gravel roads 2-up without swimming all over the place.
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:40 AM   #25
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True off road capability isn't much of a factor for me...I have a dirt bike for that, as long as it will handle the dirt/gravel roads 2-up without swimming all over the place.
Like I said I got the FZ6 and would never do offroad on it, not even the light
stuff you mention. The FZ1 can only be worse, and the Bandit is even
heavier and can also be just worse.

Think I'd look at the NC700X/Versys/V-strom as budget options, and
800GS/Tiger as more expensive options.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:19 AM   #26
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It sounds like you need a VStom 1000 or 650 with a comfortable seat and a top case that doubles as a back rest for your passenger.

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Old 07-30-2013, 09:36 AM   #27
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I had a gen 2 FZ1 and I could take gravel road at 75mph probably more if I had the balls. It's no GS, but on a gravel road it's a fine machine.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:39 AM   #28
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Actually in my opinion the FZ1 handled a gravel road at high speed better than my 800 tiger xc.
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:11 PM   #29
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I just got back from looking at the Vee. Offered him $4000 and he took it. Hopefully we can have the paper work taken care of Saturday.
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:59 AM   #30
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You wont regret your purchase.

I had a Bandit 1200 for a couple of seasons, great street bike, somewhat comfy solo a little cramped 2 up.

Then I had a V1000 and a KLR 650...those two bike compliment each other nicely. The Vee was awesome for two up touring with my wife and longer solo rides. The KLR took care of the more serious ADV type rides.

Have fun with your new Vee
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