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Old 08-11-2013, 04:46 PM   #106
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:41 AM   #107
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I'll ditto Ladybug's comments about both of you keeping your minds about you.

I was slammed by a flying snowmobile Feb 2012 that busted my femur. Out of the half-dozen folks there, no one knew much if any first aid so I had to be the one in charge and making orders. I'm kind of surprised they didn't life flight you out.

Take your time with recovery as others have said and follow doctor's orders. Heal well.
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:35 AM   #108
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I'm kind of surprised they didn't life flight you out.
From my understanding from what the EMT's said on the mountain that day that I would of got a helo ride except that the terrain was way to steep (no where to land nearby) and the strong winds partly due to the steep canyon and partly due to the weather (there was a big thunderstorm that day) prevented the use of a helo. The area where I was at was thick timber. No open place, let alone flat in the area to set a helo down.

This is part of why I was trying to do everything i could to get back on the trail and walk, crawl or whatever back out to where the road ended because I knew my current location was going to be an issue and it was. I felt I had a few minutes to do what ever before the pain got to great to allow me to function. As it turns it, i was correct. After a short time, the shock of the impact wore off and the pain set in and get very severe in a short amount of time. Looking back, I don't think we could of done much different. I just had to far to crawl and the bank was to steep for me to make it up to the trail with just Katys help. I felt (and still do feel) that Katy and i gave it one hell of a good try to get myself up to the trail before I was overcome by the pain.

There came that point where I knew I could go no further and that is when i stopped trying to get onto the trail and save what little I had left to get Katy set up to go for help. I really felt I was going to go unconscious in a very short time and needed to get Katys plan set in motion for her to go for help. As it turns out, i was incorrect about going unconscious but at the time I didn't know that and felt the best course of action was what we did.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:50 PM   #109
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Alan, keep the story going. This story should be a reminder to us all that solo adventuring can be enjoyable,, but when we are in the back country we need to be with other riders, so when (not if) accidents happen we have someone to go get help and keep us calm.

Katy, cheers to you for keeping a level head in this situation
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:45 AM   #110
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Thanks for sharing the details. I was wondering what happened as the newspaper article was very vague.

The part about trying to reduce the fracture reminded me of something I learned after my femur fracture. I was told by all the medical personal that you should never try to realign a broken femur unless you have a tourniquet ready and know how to use it. Apparently it is very easy for the jagged ends or shards of the bone to nick the femoral artery and cause massive bleeding.

While Alan and myself were lucky please keep this in mind if you or a buddy are in this situation in the future.
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:35 AM   #111
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Something to consider.....

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The part about trying to reduce the fracture reminded me of something I learned after my femur fracture. I was told by all the medical personal that you should never try to realign a broken femur unless you have a tourniquet ready and know how to use it. Apparently it is very easy for the jagged ends or shards of the bone to nick the femoral artery and cause massive bleeding.
There were two large shards in Alan's femur fracture



Yet, I believe "God helps those who help themselves", I believe we were guided to do those things that were appropriate for Alan in his particular situation.

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While Alan and myself were lucky please keep this in mind if you or a buddy are in this situation in the future.
This mat be good advice!
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:24 AM   #112
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Best wishes Alan, your a lucky man.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:15 AM   #113
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That hurt to just read it.
What he said ^^ You are one tough MoFo for sure. Thanks for taking the time to write this up, it reminds me to start carrying some extra stuff on the bike, straps,tie wraps, and misc. first aid supplies.

Take care and hoping for a fast recovery!
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:29 AM   #114
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Update

I guess I am now responsible for posting my own updates. Rocky told me that she is no longer going to take the time to do them. Don't really know why she feels she does not have the time. She not only has to take care of everything around the including those thing that I did before the accident, but has to wait on me hand and foot.
Good thing she me as it can't be easy for her.

Anyway, compared to a few days ago, I am doing much better or at least feel like I am doing much better. I have a Home Health PT (Physical Therapist) that comes in a few days a week. Yesterday the PT was here and we made good progress. I was able to do all the the exercises that she assigned to me on an earlier visit. She then showed me more to do and as you can guess, they were much more difficult and painful. One of them included trying to lift my leg. While laying on my back, try to lift my foot straight up while keeping my leg a straight as possible. Yesterday, I was unable to even budge it up even a little. She then assisted a little by gently lifting a little on my foot as I tried. Was able to lift it a few inches until the pain made me stop. I kept working on my new exercises last night and this morning. By the time I got out of bed this morning, I am now able to lift my foot straight up until my leg is point straight up without significant pain. Now I just need to be able to bend my knee. Making progress, but it hurts and I still have a long way to go.

Anyway, after I got out of bed, I was able to get in and out of the tub/shower with minimal assistance. Does not sound like much, but considering how I was doing a week ago, a major victory.

All of this while reducing the amount of pain meds I am taking.

Yesterday, I also went outside a couple of times. First time I had been outside the house since getting home Friday. In the morning, my in-laws were here for a visit and my father in law asked if there was anything he could do to help outside. I needed some spraying done and also the filter on my irrigation water pump really needed to be cleaned. I went outside with him to oversee the cleaning of the pump filter and then to line him out on the spraying. I was outside for about half an hour. Later that day when the PT lady was here, we worked on getting into and out of the pickup. I am able to get into and out of the pickup without much issue.

The other news is that they cut my oxygen level down from what it was. Also, I don't need to wear it while I am up for short tasks as dragging the hose around or using the portable bottle is a pain. I did not use oxygen on either trip outside yesterday. Most of the time the PT lady was here and I was doing my various exercises I was not on oxygen and she kept checking my oxygen level and I was okay. Hopefully I can be rid of the oxygen during the day. While sleeping appears to be the main time I still may still need oxygen for a while longer.

Tomorrow, I will be taking a road trip as I have a doctors appointment.

Thank you to all those that have send me words of encouragement and well wishes.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:30 PM   #115
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By the time I got out of bed this morning, I am now able to lift my foot straight up until my leg is point straight up without significant pain.
Hell, I can't even do that and I don't have a broken leg!
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:52 PM   #116
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Steep, glad to know you are making progress. Those things that might seem small to some are HUGE!! Rocky is a pretty awesome lady but you already knew that.

Keep working on getting better.
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:04 PM   #117
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Alrighty then.....

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Hell, I can't even do that and I don't have a broken leg!
You might be interested to know, Alan wanted to go ride the trail in this RR http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=905027
however I suggested we complete our earlier exploration and he agreed, who knows what may have happened at the other location.
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:17 PM   #118
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Thanks for sharing the details. I was wondering what happened as the newspaper article was very vague.

The part about trying to reduce the fracture reminded me of something I learned after my femur fracture. I was told by all the medical personal that you should never try to realign a broken femur unless you have a tourniquet ready and know how to use it. Apparently it is very easy for the jagged ends or shards of the bone to nick the femoral artery and cause massive bleeding.

While Alan and myself were lucky please keep this in mind if you or a buddy are in this situation in the future.

Wilderness medicine [and Ski Patrol for that matter] now advises to not "reduce" [unless EMS trained personnel with a correct traction splint have the training and time to apply one] a femur fracture but do put the leg back into the "normal alignment" before transporting [immobilize using a splint or other leg]...this info from ER physicians that trained our patrol and taught for the Wilderness Advance First Aid for the Wilderness Medical Associates...massive bleeding is not common with a femur break but pain sure as hell is...and the shock can be a serious issue that must be mediated.

Your mileage may vary....

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Old 08-13-2013, 05:33 PM   #119
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Wilderness medicine [and Ski Patrol for that matter] now advises to not "reduce" [unless EMS trained personnel with a correct traction splint have the training and time to apply one] a femur fracture but do put the leg back into the "normal alignment" before transporting [immobilize using a splint or other leg]...this info from ER physicians that trained our patrol and taught for the Wilderness Advance First Aid for the Wilderness Medical Associates...massive bleeding is not common with a femur break but pain sure as hell is...and the shock can be a serious issue that must be mediated.

Your mileage may vary....

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Wow pieces everywhere!
Glad you are getting around, I only had my moms break ( almost identical) to go by and she was in the rehab place for six weeks. I had taken Monday off to come by for a few minutes over the weekend and say hi , then the car broke ( mechanic still trying to figure it out), and I got an ear infection. Maybe next week.

Wallowa is definitely a god guy to have around after you have bounced down the road a bit! from personal experience.
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:02 PM   #120
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Wow pieces everywhere!
Glad you are getting around, I only had my moms break ( almost identical) to go by and she was in the rehab place for six weeks. I had taken Monday off to come by for a few minutes over the weekend and say hi , then the car broke ( mechanic still trying to figure it out), and I got an ear infection. Maybe next week.

Wallowa is definitely a god guy to have around after you have bounced down the road a bit! from personal experience.
Honestly, I am mortal...hey, you did most of it for yourself...best tuck and roll I have ever seen! Watching it in slow motion in front of me was a great education indeed.

Rocky and Steep did a great job in dealing with a horrific injury in a very hostile environment...ya done good! And the angels were there to help.
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