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Old 08-17-2013, 06:26 PM   #16
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Think you may have convinced me to do the same , I don't find my new 2012 v strom heavy at all ,, the 12 is the same has the 13 model In fact i find it nice and light , thats what i like about it , i've read about how restrictive it is on the dirt , but yet i've been on some pretty rough stuff and thought the only restrictions have been my tyres and my limited dirt skills .

But then again i've been riding a 395 kilo monster has my main bike for the last 5 years , wich when fully loaded is , bike 395kilo . myself 105 kilo wife 80 kilo and probably 30 kilo luggage

Compared to that running around on the v strom on my own its litery half the weight .

Think i will wait and se how the new v strom 1000 specs are , the current one just does'nt appeal to me .

Cannot help but wonder if yamahas lack of demo bikes is affecting there sales , i stumbled across the wee strom after sitting on one in a yammy dealer , i was actually looking for a new fjr 1300 , but they did'nt have a demo model .

And after buying , 5 new bikes in 5 years and never being complety happy the v strom the only one i tested , i have decide i'll never buy a new bike again unless i i have a good test on them .

Actually i was looking for a fjr because the bike i really wanted the triumph trophy , the dealer had a demo bike but refused, a ride except for what he said, was a quick 10 minuite escorted ride around the city

Worked how well really because i stumbled across these adventure bikes
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Old 08-17-2013, 07:34 PM   #17
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Is it my imagination or is the number of people who have answered this thread and have actually ridden a 2012 V-Strom and Super Tenere - one?

You can find out things like range or service costs on a forum, and both bikes have their following and substantial after markets. And you can detail the spec sheet differences, like shaft drive versus chain.

But you gotta ride them yourself. Whether you like the shaft drive feel or not, whether you feel the S10's "mass centralization" sufficiently masks the weight, how often you ride at high speeds where the extra power would be useful at the cost of lower mpg, how the ergos feel - only you can decide.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:08 AM   #18
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I was wanting the S-10 when it first came out in the states, but was way to deep for my budget bought a Triumph Tiger 1050 Brilliant bike in my book.
But not for off road; road my friends V 1000 to Moab and he road the Triumph, I had to fight him to get my T back.
The V was OK tall like the Tiger but lacked something.
Totaled my Tiger July 22nd this year and landed a used low mile Modified S-10 with 21"x18" Woody's wheels so I cant say how the 17"x19" would have felt, but I can say this is the bike I have been looking for.
It has something of a Jeep like quality to it that makes me want to just travel and explore, it is a Twin thumper that sounds and feels sort of like a fun ass Giant Mini Bike.
Living in the South West that is a good Quality to have!!

You can bag used Tenere's cheap these days with upgrades and some with the Yamaha Y.E.S. 4 year transferable Warranty everyone has bought but not yet needed, that says a lot about Yamaha.

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Old 08-18-2013, 09:52 AM   #19
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Think you may have convinced me to do the same , I don't find my new 2012 v strom heavy at all ,, the 12 is the same has the 13 model In fact i find it nice and light , thats what i like about it , i've read about how restrictive it is on the dirt , but yet i've been on some pretty rough stuff and thought the only restrictions have been my tyres and my limited dirt skills .

But then again i've been riding a 395 kilo monster has my main bike for the last 5 years , wich when fully loaded is , bike 395kilo . myself 105 kilo wife 80 kilo and probably 30 kilo luggage

Compared to that running around on the v strom on my own its litery half the weight .

Think i will wait and se how the new v strom 1000 specs are , the current one just does'nt appeal to me .

Cannot help but wonder if yamahas lack of demo bikes is affecting there sales , i stumbled across the wee strom after sitting on one in a yammy dealer , i was actually looking for a new fjr 1300 , but they did'nt have a demo model .

And after buying , 5 new bikes in 5 years and never being complety happy the v strom the only one i tested , i have decide i'll never buy a new bike again unless i i have a good test on them .

Actually i was looking for a fjr because the bike i really wanted the triumph trophy , the dealer had a demo bike but refused, a ride except for what he said, was a quick 10 minuite escorted ride around the city

Worked how well really because i stumbled across these adventure bikes
if you want to improve the wee off road, better springs up front, and a decent fork oil, some mitas Dakar, or 50/50, and crank the rear pre-load up. They are plenty capable.
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Old 08-18-2013, 01:21 PM   #20
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where I live is like 'high growth corridor" perpetually in the top 5 fastest growing areas of the USA [in fact, no that many areas of the usa are growing at all period.] yet there are no dealers I know of that will demo tenere's, weestroms, and likely not new 2014 v-stroms. just doesn't happen.
Dealers that come across USED models will.
BMW/Triumph dealers on the other hand solicit test rides. that may be one reason why the 800xc took off like it did.

ive seen just a few teneres up for sale 'gently used' in the area but oddly have never seen one in the wild. local dealer sold at least one in the last year [lovely raven model] and has a new one on the shelf now. those that sell them or trade them; i'd love to hear the story of why they let it go.
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Old 08-18-2013, 02:26 PM   #21
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Thats a good point about the test ride. I have been craving the new wee and now I see pictures of the new vee and going to wait to check one of those out. I have heard a lot of good things about the new wee but nothing answers questions like a test ride.
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Old 08-18-2013, 03:24 PM   #22
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where I live is like 'high growth corridor" perpetually in the top 5 fastest growing areas of the USA [in fact, no that many areas of the usa are growing at all period.] yet there are no dealers I know of that will demo tenere's, weestroms, and likely not new 2014 v-stroms. just doesn't happen.
Dealers that come across USED models will.
BMW/Triumph dealers on the other hand solicit test rides. that may be one reason why the 800xc took off like it did.

ive seen just a few teneres up for sale 'gently used' in the area but oddly have never seen one in the wild. local dealer sold at least one in the last year [lovely raven model] and has a new one on the shelf now. those that sell them or trade them; i'd love to hear the story of why they let it go.
I'm in Texas too and I have never bought a new bike I didn't test ride first. 1 Yamaha, 2 Honda, 2 Kawa,2 Suzuki, 1 BMW...test rides on all. Not sure why you are not getting them.
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Old 08-18-2013, 06:06 PM   #23
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Here on oz test rides are normal if they have a demo model , just that no yammy dealers seem to have them , i've been to 3 .

What really suprised me was none of them having there new flagship the fjr has a demo , Supose they are just expecting people to upgrade there new ones , or there scared they will put one on the road and be stuck with it.

Still like i said unless i can ride one first it will not be happenning ,
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Old 08-18-2013, 06:35 PM   #24
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Here on oz test rides are normal if they have a demo model , just that no yammy dealers seem to have them , i've been to 3 .

What really suprised me was none of them having there new flagship the fjr has a demo , Supose they are just expecting people to upgrade there new ones , or there scared they will put one on the road and be stuck with it.

Still like i said unless i can ride one first it will not be happenning ,
No problem with that.

My first S10 ride was at a demo day. Got to try a lot of YAMAHA models back to back. Pity the test ride stuff is so thin on the ground. I didn't have a problem, but I did have a problem with any off road testing, I had to "accidentally" ride off the tarmac on the demo day.

I wasn't the only one.

The funny thing was that the most damage that day was done by SKWIDS laying down XJ's and R6's.
Every ride had a bike being fixed in the trailer.

BIKE BIz in sydney used to do some off road things, but that doesn't help you unfortunately.
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Old 08-18-2013, 07:13 PM   #25
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Here on oz test rides are normal if they have a demo model , just that no yammy dealers seem to have them , i've been to 3 .

What really suprised me was none of them having there new flagship the fjr has a demo , Supose they are just expecting people to upgrade there new ones , or there scared they will put one on the road and be stuck with it.

Still like i said unless i can ride one first it will not be happenning ,
Suzuki, Yamaha and other manufacturers often have a traveling inventory of their product line they take from location to location for test rides. You can often ride several, depending on crowds.

If that fails this is a great forum to find someone In the neighborhood with the bike yout want to try. I was able to ride an R1200GS, R1200GS-A, and DL1000 before I bought a DL650. And rode an F800ST and Tiger 800 before I bought the Tiger 1050.
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Old 08-18-2013, 07:46 PM   #26
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DL, STenere, and the 800s

I ride Gypsy, my beloved '07 VStrom. She has 25K miles and has carried me places Suzuki never intended their 500 lb bike to go. That said, last fall I had the pleasure of being followed by an unknown rider on a Tenere and can only offer these observations: Perhaps I am a better rider but I lost him in the twisties. Perhaps I have more dirt experience but when I turned up the dirt road, he turned around and headed back to town.
As for BMW's 800GS and Truimph's 800XC, I have ridden both and find both delightful. Neither has the raw torque of my Strom so both are working harder on pavement but both have a nimble quality off pavement that leave my beastly DL behind.
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:06 PM   #27
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If i was to make it my only bike , i would definetly have to put , bigger risers that come back more , then cables ,, i would need the lowering pegs , even though i'm a short arse , after a while my knees hurt , (i'm used to cruisers ) and i would DEFINETLY need a better seat , , which if it lifted the bike higher would mean lowering the bike a bit , links are out i would do it properly , but i cannot help but think spending all that money on a 650 to tour would be throwing it away ,

I don't get it? Handlebar risers, new seat, pegs, and raising/lowering links are some of the most common and cheap adjustments you could make to any bike. A shortish rider, in particular, would expect to do those things on every bike they purchase.
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:13 PM   #28
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I had a DL650 (45k miles). From that to a DL1k (50k miles). Now I'm on a Tiger 1200 Explorer.

I enjoyed the Wee, but for 2-up touring, it just didn't cut it. The Vee was a big improvement, if just a little less refined in the power plant. I thought it was a great all around bike, and my wife and I did many thousands of miles on it. Then I made the mistake of test-riding the TEX. That was all it took! The Tenere was on my list and I regret that I missed my chance for a test ride while in Daytona last spring, and I'd still like to try one out sometime. But the TEX is just awesome; plenty of power, great fuel economy (for a 1200), low maintenance, and one of the most comfortable 2-up ADV bikes out there (in my biased opinion!). Perhaps if I had ridden the Yammie first, it would have been different.

Now, as for off-road, so far I haven't taken the TEX on anything but light gravel and it did just fine. The ST is supposed to be better but in the end, I think it is probably more rider than bike: they are all heavy beasts!

Good luck with your decision!
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:18 PM   #29
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Hi , just like to ask people who know , i've asked this in another forum , but would like the opinion on owners or x owners of vstroms and teneres .
Why stop at the Weestrom V the S10.

I think a better upgrade would be to one of the 800 Tigers, or the F700GS.

Of the bunch, the S10 is the piggiest.
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:25 PM   #30
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Why stop at the Weestrom V the S10.

I think a better upgrade would be to one of the 800 Tigers, or the F700GS.

Of the bunch, the S10 is the piggiest.
Price and reliability.
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