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Old 08-17-2013, 09:23 AM   #1
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Scottoiler lube or ATF and Oring chains?

I have an RK Xring chain that has thrown its orings in under 10,000 miles with no other signs of wear(stretching). The front sprocket has also worn down to nubs while the rear is beautiful.
I have been using a Scottoiler with the recommended alternative lubricant of ATF fluid. It is set up to keep the chain wet but not throw oil everywhere.
I am replacing the chain and sprockets today and am hoping to avoid having similar results.
Does anyone have any input?
If it helps, the chain the chain had 3 tight links from the beginning that never worked themselves out.
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Old 08-17-2013, 09:55 AM   #2
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If one listens to what Scottoiler states, one drop per minute is the optimal rate. The one drop of oil per minute is applied to the rear sprocket just inside the gear ring. ATF is a substitute oil; I am considering 2-stroke oil in my Scottoiler. There is always the option of contacting Scottoiler and asking them about your configuration and how it should best work.
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Old 08-18-2013, 07:35 AM   #3
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looking around the internet I am hearing rumors of ATF "rotting" and "swelling" orings and therefore being an unsuitable replacement for oring chains. I have contacted DID and am awaiting their reply.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:57 AM   #4
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looking around the internet I am hearing rumors of ATF "rotting" and "swelling" orings and therefore being an unsuitable replacement for oring chains. I have contacted DID and am awaiting their reply.
just see here

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345397
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:20 AM   #5
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:43 AM   #6
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looking around the internet I am hearing rumors of ATF "rotting" and "swelling" orings and therefore being an unsuitable replacement for oring chains. I have contacted DID and am awaiting their reply.
Contacting RK to ask why their o-ring disintegrated from ATF would be a good idea also. Most o-rings are Buna-Nitrile and have good compatibility with ATF. But, if it seems the o-rings are dissolving or swelling then a different oil is needed. Good luck!

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Old 08-18-2013, 11:01 AM   #7
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When I had a Scott oiler on my old ZX I filled it with 20w50. Heck it was a Kawasaki so having a spare bottle of oil on hand was not unusual as she liked to sip her share. O rings never rotted out and the chain life was fantastic. Although the back of the bike was a mess
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I havent contacted RK but DID replied with "we have not tested the compatability of atf with our chains... use lube listed as safe for oring chains"
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I scanned through a few pages, and didn't find a punchline.

do you have a better resource ?
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It's hard to imagine that ATF "ate" the O-rings -automatic transmissions have lots of O-rings in them, no?
I don't use a Scottoiler, but I wouldn't lube any chain with ATF, though. It's very thin with low film strength.
I've been using Maxima (or other similar) chain wax products on my street bikes for years, and never had any O-rings vanish.
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How dose any lube get past the O ring to the pin and the "ID" of the roler ,
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I would be inclined to use some real oil, like Rotella or something cheap but known to be good.
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How dose any lube get past the O ring to the pin and the "ID" of the roler ,
The pins are internally lubricated , hence the O-rings. Lubing is for the O-rings and the rollers. The rollers aren't sealed.
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I scanned through a few pages, and didn't find a punchline.

do you have a better resource ?
Yeah , ME. He made a good attempt , there just wasn't any experience or knowledge behind it.
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Old 08-19-2013, 09:30 PM   #15
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I've been running ATF through my Scottoiler for I don't know how many thousands of miles... on the same chain. I always have mine set at the slowest drip rate.

Have you ever cleaned your chain with a non-safe solvent, like brake kleen, or mineral spirits?
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