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Old 08-10-2005, 12:42 PM   #91
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:43 PM   #92
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:51 PM   #93
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the chinese 2-strokes get much more favorable reviews than the bigger 4-strokes. The Vento mailing list that Photog sent me to for some reading is full of posts on "how do you fix xxxx on the Phantom?" and not too many posts about Zips or Tritons. That's just an initial observation. I haven't looked at or ridden the bigger ones.
Interesting DrIT, I was looking at the phantom remembering my trail 90 that my brother and I rode into the ground, and then some. Thing wouldn't die. It was our pit bike when we raced MX and it was rode hard and put up wet.

Any clues as to why the 4-strokes don't fair as well as the teeny twos?
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:59 PM   #94
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Interesting DrIT, I was looking at the phantom remembering my trail 90 that my brother and I rode into the ground, and then some. Thing wouldn't die. It was our pit bike when we raced MX and it was rode hard and put up wet.

Any clues as to why the 4-strokes don't fair as well as the teeny twos?
The drivetrains are pretty solid, but I think overall there could be a QC issue with a few, and also the fact that many of these are owned by total n00bs that are a bit tentative about a little DIY stuff. If one of us saw a fuel line that was loose, we'd tighten up the clamp and think about replacing the hose and clamp later on...n00b owners (first-timers for any sort of bike) will tend ot get on line and say "fuel is dripping! AAIIIIEEEEE!". (again, the reason we need a scooter forum here on ADV so we don't have to wade through the "whut does the twisty thing on the right handle do?" posts.)

A lot of these scoots are bought through mailorder, and sometimes little gremlins show up in that first assembly out of the crate. Some of the dealers pre-assemble them and test them, which helps the QC issue.

Like you said, most of these buggers are pretty much bulletproof. You can't really screw 'em up.

Where it comes off the rails is shoddy assembly at the plant. That's why I think the Ventos have a bit better quality--there's another set of eyeballs looking them over before they ship.

That said, I've noticed the same thing DoctorIT has...very few questions about the Ventos and Tritons....which both share the same drivetrain (though I've heard the Zip has a slightly lower gearing....not sure)
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:02 PM   #95
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:12 PM   #96
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Yeah, I saw it too, total of 54 posts, ever. And half of them are from Michelle, co-owner.

If we had an advscooter, there'd be 54 posts in the first 2 minutes.
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:13 PM   #97
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:16 PM   #98
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"fuel is dripping! AAIIIIEEEEE!"
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:16 PM   #99
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:36 PM   #101
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:42 PM   #102
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n00b owners (first-timers for any sort of bike) will tend ot get on line and say "fuel is dripping! AAIIIIEEEEE!". (again, the reason we need a scooter forum here on ADV so we don't have to wade through the "whut does the twisty thing on the right handle do?" posts.

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Old 08-10-2005, 01:59 PM   #103
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Before you start the ATGATT comments, please notice I at least pulled down my eye protection before pulling off.

Let me just say that the ONE time I was almost killed riding happened JUST LIKE THIS. It was on my son's 80cc mini bike, on the street in front of our house. All it took was a quick test ride, a seized engine, an out of control skid, a flip over on its side and a subdural hemotoma to almost kill me. I received 4 days in intensive care, 9 days hospitalized, another week in bed at home and permanent memory loss. I don't even walk out to the garage to look at my bikes without ATGATT now. You can't be too careful. This is No Gear At All (NGAA). Ouch.
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:06 PM   #104
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Let me just say that the ONE time I was almost killed riding happened JUST LIKE THIS. It was on my son's 80cc mini bike, on the street in front of our house. All it took was a quick test ride, a seized engine, an out of control skid, a flip over on its side and a subdural hemotoma to almost kill me. I received 4 days in intensive care, 9 days hospitalized, another week in bed at home and permanent memory loss. I don't even walk out to the garage to look at my bikes without ATGATT now. You can't be too careful. This is No Gear At All (NGAA). Ouch.






Sorry 'bout your luck man, memory loss is no joke.
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:22 PM   #105
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Sorry 'bout your luck man, memory loss is no joke.
I remember looking into the garage at my helmet setting on the trailer and thinking, I don't need a helmet for this, just before heading down the driveway. Who'd have thought you could get killed playing on a mini bike in front of your house.

My wife gets credit for saving my life by making (and I mean making) the ER Doctor run a CT Scan on me. They were going to load me in the car and send me home where I probably would have died from brain swelling. I wish I could remember the shock on their faces when they found the bleeding in my brain.

I just cringe when I see people on any kind of bike without ATGATT. Cool scooter.
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