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Old 09-03-2013, 10:20 AM   #1
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Changed my first tire- need guidance

Hi, folks!

Based on all the feedback I've gotten from lurking in this sub-forum, I bit the bullet and bought a tire changer. My dealer quoting me $200+ in labor for tires purchased elsewhere or paying MSRP for them didn't hurt.

I found a used Wikco changer on Craigslist, set it up and used it for the first time this weekend. The removal went smooth as silk. Bead breaker and demount bar both worked perfectly.

The problem came when I tried to mount. Using the mount bar, I could get the tire about 70% mounted when the wheel would start to slip and rotate. I cranked the clamp down as tight as I felt comfortable (pretty dad gum tight) and it still slipped.

Ended up using spoons to finish the mount, which worked OK. I'd just rather not have a large contraption taking up space if I'm going to end up using spoons.

Full disclosure- I used gaffer's tape on the rim clamps. Is that what's causing the slipping? Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks!
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Old 09-03-2013, 10:34 AM   #2
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What tire and size?
What kind of rim?
Tube or not?
Was the tire in the "well" opposite of the final section to go in?
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Old 09-03-2013, 10:52 AM   #3
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What tire and size?
What kind of rim?
Tube or not?
Was the tire in the "well" opposite of the final section to go in?
Jake- Great questions.

Stock Triumph 17" rim off a Street Triple.

Tubeless, Pilot Road 3.

The tire was in the "well" on the other side- I used a couple of clamps to compress it.

I also was using water/dish soap as a lubricant. I was able to pop the bead on using short spoons without too much trouble.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:11 PM   #4
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I have a Harbor Frieght machine that I use with a Mojo Lever . . . . .and have Mojo blocks on the machine . . .. same wheel slippage . . . .


I run a tie down strap around a spoke (cast wheel) or a number of spokes (wire wheel) and then around a frame member of the machine.

No More Slippage.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:50 PM   #5
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I have a Harbor Frieght machine that I use with a Mojo Lever . . . . .and have Mojo blokcs on the machine . . .. same wheel slippage . . . .


I run a tie down strap around a spoke (cast wheel) or a number of spokes (wire wheel) and then around a frame member of the machine.

No More Slippage.
Thanks, Bomber. Any worries about tweaking a spoke on a cast wheel?
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:59 PM   #6
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Cast wheel?

None whatsoever (they hold up the bike, after all).

Spoke wheels, that's why I go around several spokes ;-}
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:05 PM   #7
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I have a Harbor Frieght machine that I use with a Mojo Lever . . . . .and have Mojo blokcs on the machine . . .. same wheel slippage . . . .


I run a tie down strap around a spoke (cast wheel) or a number of spokes (wire wheel) and then around a frame member of the machine.

No More Slippage.
I do the same.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:20 PM   #8
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Thanks, guys. I'll try a strap next time and see how it goes.

I appreciate the help!
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:39 PM   #9
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Soap and water is better than nothing or dog spit, certainly, but using tire mounting lubricant is much better. Easier mounting and less tendency to rust/corrode your wheels.
Ruglyde from NAPA, XtraSeal from Advance Auto and others. A gallon is $10, and will last a loooong time.
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:02 PM   #10
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some of this/ One of these
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:41 PM   #11
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I tried to buy a pint or 2 of tire changing lube from a local tire shop. They told me to use cooking oil, as it is about the same thing. Sounded messy, so I went back to a solution of water & Dawn dish soap, which seems to work well. I have also used Windex, which works, but evaporates quickly.

I'd buy tire changing lube like Ruglyde in reasonable qty, but only see shop-size containers (gallon or larger). Does anyone sell a reasonable amount, preferably in a bottle that doubles as a dispenser?

Has anyone tried Armor All? This guy promotes (but you can almost read anything in the internet): http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/Bl...#axzz2dsbdI7k1

The Wing guy in the above link also writes that (some) dish soap will ruin alloy wheels.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:13 PM   #12
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I have found that using three 3/4" blocks of wood on the underside quite helpful to keep the tire at the center of the rim. Also tire lube is your friend.
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Old 09-03-2013, 08:28 PM   #13
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I'd buy tire changing lube like Ruglyde in reasonable qty, but only see shop-size containers (gallon or larger). Does anyone sell a reasonable amount, preferably in a bottle that doubles as a dispenser?
Go to Princess Auto.
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:51 AM   #14
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Tire lube thread

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=876340
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:15 PM   #15
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C'mon guys ! You're spending good money for tire changing tools, straps, tire irons, etc. Why not spend a little more and buy some real tire lube ?
Its like spending $100 for a really good toothbrush and then using baking soda instead of toothpaste.
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