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Old 09-04-2013, 10:20 AM   #1
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Question 2013 Ford E-150 ?

Having my van down for 10 days recently gave me the opportunity to consider alternatives-specifically the 2013 E150.

Used to be the 150 was light duty but I guess that changed @ 2010 or so. Actual payload & towing capacity is not that much less than the 250, same motor,tranny,wheels,etc. Frankly, I'm unclear where the actual difference lies other than the suspension.

Any experiences good or bad?
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:40 PM   #2
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Besides heavy 8 lug axles, BA-RAKES!!!
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:05 PM   #3
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The E150 is 8 lug; brakes are 4 way anti-lock on both models.

Rear axle?
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:03 PM   #4
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Nissan did the same thing on there NV1500. Same big brakes and 8-lug wheels. I was told it was different springs and suspension tuning. Done for regulatory purposes (lighter GVW better tax rate, some places allow half ton trucks in places where 3/4ton are banned, weird stuff like that). Ford probably did it for the same reasons.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:33 PM   #5
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The E150 is 8 lug; brakes are 4 way anti-lock on both models.

Rear axle?
LOL, read some SPECIFICATIONS... not Subaru commercial fluff.. seems you already have your mind made up. Check rotor diameter... brake swept area, etc. 8 lug axles on 150's? At least it's better than the fricken SEVEN lug shit they sold a few years ago...
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:02 PM   #6
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Nissan did the same thing on there NV1500. Same big brakes and 8-lug wheels. I was told it was different springs and suspension tuning. Done for regulatory purposes (lighter GVW better tax rate, some places allow half ton trucks in places where 3/4ton are banned, weird stuff like that). Ford probably did it for the same reasons.

Funny you mention the NV; I had a look at the NV2500. Nice rig but, the motor positioned out front sacrifices the star & intent of the vehicle-cargo space!! Oddly, they are much larger than they appear at a glance. Losing that 10' capability proved a deal breaker for me at this point.

Ford has nixxed the Econoline for the Transit beginning in 2015. My take is they streamlined the vans since 2010 in preparation-why maintain an inventory many different parts .

The GVW of the E150 now requires commercial plates, at least here.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:09 PM   #7
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concours- what are you on about?

Here are the Ford specs- http://www.ford.com/commercial-truck...ions/view-all/

Here are specs from Car & Driver, same brake rotors,etc:

http://buyersguide.caranddriver.com/...specs#features


Do you actually own or drive one?

Do you know anything about or have actual experience with the 2013 E150?

That is the input I'm seeking.

I recall your "suggestions" in my Savana thread; don't need that here either. Thanks.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:10 PM   #8
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:27 AM   #9
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Funny you mention the NV; I had a look at the NV2500. Nice rig but, the motor positioned out front sacrifices the star & intent of the vehicle-cargo space!! Oddly, they are much larger than they appear at a glance. Losing that 10' capability proved a deal breaker for me at this point.

Ford has nixxed the Econoline for the Transit beginning in 2015. My take is they streamlined the vans since 2010 in preparation-why maintain an inventory many different parts .

The GVW of the E150 now requires commercial plates, at least here.
I have put 10' sticks in the Nissan van. The center console is slightly undercut to give just enough room. Need to haul more? the center console is removable as well. Come to think of it, I am not sure if you get a center console with the 1500?

That long snout gets you off the front wheels, rides better. and you have foot room There was actually thought put into driver (and passenger) comfort. Ever take a road trip and have your feet on top of each other because the foot well isn't wide enough? The Nissan has room.

You may want to reconsider it.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:43 AM   #10
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bronco-

not sticks, necessarily, but sheets.

I'll tell you, I did like the NV overall; if they made a 4wd it probably would have been a done deal. Moving that motor forward increased vehicle length by the same amount cargo was decreased which left me thinking I might as well go back to a pickup w/ a cap and racks and have the bonus of 4wd; of course, that route gets costly pretty quick!

Now, if I were looking for a people hauler the NV would be high on my list-Nissan seems fairly aggressive here about gaining market share, I have to imagine vehicle quality & reliability are a large part of that.

I really do have my eye on a transit down the road so the E150, the newest vehicle I've ever owned, is sort of an equity stake as well.

At least in theory...
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:11 PM   #11
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I don't have any experience with the '13 model, but I drove an 06 60k in a year.

My experience was it was quite a nice vehicle. Unloaded or lightly loaded would yield about 18-20 on the highways. (Bikes inside etc, surf gear, light household supplies)

Loaded up for camping and towing a trailer with dune buggy, and a moto or 2 would yield about 12mpg highway.

I had the 4.6l v8. It was smooth, and nice.

The trans was great, but be sure to service at 30k.

My experience with the 5.4l is they spit spark plugs. I don't know of they have re designed the cylinder heads or not, but having spark plugs spat out in the middle of nowhere sucks. It usually destroys the coil pack because it blows up thru it.

The 8 lug axles and bigger brakes only mean better brakes and stronger. Ain't nothin wrong with that.

In all honesty, I doubt you could put 4x10 sheets of wood/drywall in it and clear the rear doors, I know for a fact I couldn't with my 06. My 11'6 longboard would JUST touch the windshield lay across the bed/storage box I built right behind the front seats, and I'd have to put a towel between it and the rear doors.

If the "long box" model, I'm sure it'll fit, but not in the base 2006. So be sure to measure.

Vans are the best, I really miss mine.
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Old 09-06-2013, 05:18 AM   #12
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I do wonder about the motor; Edmunds,etc, all rate it as underpowered & sluggish. It seems odd because an '89 F150 4x4 I owned years ago had the straight 6 which,iirc, was a 3.9L- that truck hauled weight and ass.I took that from 72k mi to 172k mi; it was still strong but had rusted away.

Buddy at the time had same motor in an '88 w/ a lift and big tires, still plenty of go; of course, they were both 5 speeds.

Actually, that guy's dad was driving an e150 w/ the straight 6 as well. He bought it new and drove it 385,000 miles ! Too bad they don't make that motor anymore...
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The 4.6 in the econoline is the basic 2V engine that has been around since the early 90's. Also stuck in crown vic taxis and can often be found in original condition still running at 400k.
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Old 09-07-2013, 04:52 PM   #14
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Having 8 lug wheels is not the main concern. Does the F-150 have a true full-floating rear axle? That was what always defined heavy duty or Super Duty, and only came on the 250-350 series previously.
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GVW 8800 lbs makes it a 3/4 ton van.

Front axle 3700
Rear 5100 semi floating axle

In 2008 Ford changed the way the twin I beams mount to the frame and made it much easier to do ball joints that they all seem to need at about 80,000.

I maintain a fleet of 25 ford and Chevy 3/4 ton and one ton vans. These are bought new and traded at 125 to 150,000 miles.

At 40,000 miles they need brakes and tires. Again at 75,000 and one more time around 115,000. The rest it oil changes and ball joints around 80 to 100,000. No belts, no shocks, no tranny fluid change, a few air filters and that is about it. Of the 25 I do about one fuel pump a year and yes maybe one blown out spark plug. The last one took the fuel rail with it so the van was spraying fuel everywhere. Spark plug still attached to the coil. Its really lucky it didn't go up in smoke. We do have two 2013 in the fleet, but they are still new and 3/4 ton so I can't say much about them.

When they were getting traded in around 100,000 I was not even replacing spark plugs, now I do them between 80 and 100,000.

You won't find a better work van.

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