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Old 09-10-2013, 02:40 PM   #16
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In the US you want the sidecar on the right for a couple reasons, first because car drivers sit in the left seat, second because on crowned roads you want the sidecar to be on the downhill side.

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I just noticed all these scooters have the sidecar on the left, while Ural puts them on the right. I have seen sidecars on either side. What's the deal with that? does it make a difference?
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:53 PM   #17
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On vespa and stella that would be engine side..I wonder if it would block access?
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:49 PM   #18
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The California Sidecar didn't block access, don't know about other makes.

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On vespa and stella that would be engine side..I wonder if it would block access?
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:57 PM   #19
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Anyone do any distances with a hack or just local run-abouts? seems to me it would be a great place to put gear, especially if the seats removable and you keep the weight far less than a passenger.
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Old 09-10-2013, 04:05 PM   #20
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I just noticed all these scooters have the sidecar on the left, while Ural puts them on the right. I have seen sidecars on either side. What's the deal with that? does it make a difference?

Judging by the posters location and the plates those scooters are all in the UK territory. Like here in NZ they drive on the left so all of the chairs are kerbside where they are.
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Old 09-10-2013, 04:49 PM   #21
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:05 PM   #22
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"I just noticed all these scooters have the sidecar on the left, while Ural puts them on the right. I have seen sidecars on either side. What's the deal with that? does it make a difference?"

It's convention, Jerry. The Isle of Wight, where that scooter gathering occurred, is in the United Kingdom. In the US and most other locations where one drives on the right side of the road, the sidecar, by convention, goes on the right side of the tug. In the UK, where one drives on the left, the sidecar goes on the left side. Think of it as similar in nature to where the steering wheel is located in a car in the US and in Great Britain and that will answer your question...
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:56 PM   #23
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Does Linkage in the front make a difference? Stella, vespa p's, honda helix all have trailing link front ends. Ural has leading link Fronts and are designed for hacks
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:18 PM   #24
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What make of sidecar is that in the video? Thanks!
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Old 09-23-2013, 04:30 PM   #25
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I don't think it matters whether it's trailing link, leading link, standard forks, it's just the amount of trail that makes a difference. The sidecars I've had on Vespas, VBB, Rally 200, and P200 all worked well.

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Does Linkage in the front make a difference? Stella, vespa p's, honda helix all have trailing link front ends. Ural has leading link Fronts and are designed for hacks
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:38 AM   #26
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I talked to my stella dealer about a hack, his suggests at least the carb/exhaust upgrade from stock before adding a rig...

not unreasonable if I thinki about it.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:04 AM   #27
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Yes, its been done

but I'd be more inclined to add a sidecar to an underbone scooter, vs. a monocoque Vespa or Stella.

A sidcar imposes some high stresses at its mounting points, and there isn't much more than stressed sheet metal to attach to on either of those.

Just because it's been done, doesn't mean its been durable.

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You can get a sidecar for the Genuine Stella and various vintage Vespas. I can't imagine the Stella having enough power to handle one. but it has been done many times.
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but I'd be more inclined to add a sidecar to an underbone scooter, vs. a monocoque Vespa or Stella.

A sidcar imposes some high stresses at its mounting points, and there isn't much more than stressed sheet metal to attach to on either of those.

Just because it's been done, doesn't mean its been durable.
I'd sure be interested to see an underbone with a hack, honda cubs never got over
110cc did they? Unless your talking helix, reflex, elites, etc... those I've seen with hacks... And a helix with the right style right looks pretty damned good imho
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I'd sure be interested to see an underbone with a hack, honda cubs never got over
110cc did they? Unless your talking helix, reflex, elites, etc... those I've seen with hacks... And a helix with the right style right looks pretty damned good imho
Seen a couple Burgies with them, very attractive, robust and powered for the task.

I'm not a big Burgman fan, but you have to admit...thats a sexy set-up.





This one's pretty cool, but it's probably faster to walk:


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Old 10-03-2013, 02:39 PM   #30
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The way the sidecars attach to the Vespa is plenty sturdy, at least the ones I've used. They bolt on with 4 bolts right where the center hump meets the floorboard. The steel is double thick there. I've hauled some very heavy loads in mine for many thousands of miles and never had a problem.
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but I'd be more inclined to add a sidecar to an underbone scooter, vs. a monocoque Vespa or Stella.

A sidcar imposes some high stresses at its mounting points, and there isn't much more than stressed sheet metal to attach to on either of those.

Just because it's been done, doesn't mean its been durable.
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