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Old 09-17-2013, 02:17 PM   #16
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I have a buddy who had a DR650 and still has a DL650. In the paved twisties he was actually faster on the DR. However, the DL does have more power and is much better on higher speed roads. If your talking 60, 180 or 129 over Blood Mountain, a thunper will work great. On something like the Skyway or any long ride, you'll be better off on a twin, or triple. Horsepower is overated in the twisty stuff but on a longer or high speed ride, the bigger bikes will be more comfortable and you won't feel like you are abusing the the motor.

A note on the Dursoduro 750. Talked to someone recently who rented one for a day from Riders hill. He said it was the best handling bike he had ever ridden.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:08 PM   #17
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Talked to someone recently who rented one for a day from Riders hill.
That is cool. I looked them up, and they have some Moto Guzzis, too. If I was close, I would love to take the Grizo 8V SE for a spin. The Stelvio 1200 would fit the bill for the OP, but cost about 4X as much as the bike he's asking about.

Just for kicks, check out what inmate Bobmiller90 did to his Dorsoduro. I added a skid plate to mine, but don't have the skills to add spokes like he did.


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Old 09-17-2013, 05:53 PM   #18
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That is cool. I looked them up, and they have some Moto Guzzis, too. If I was close, I would love to take the Grizo 8V SE for a spin. The Stelvio 1200 would fit the bill for the OP, but cost about 4X as much as the bike he's asking about.

Just for kicks, check out what inmate Bobmiller90 did to his Dorsoduro. I added a skid plate to mine, but don't have the skills to add spokes like he did.

Riders Hill is the best motorcycle dealer I have dealt with. They sell Aprilia, Moto Guzzi, and MV Augusta. They also have a cafe and lots of rocking chairs to hang out. I went there for lunch and ended up buying an Aprilia
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:14 PM   #19
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That bike looks sweet! Like a "dirt bike on steroids"!

Thanks for the replies all. Really enjoying the discussion. How are you doing Mr. Klaviator? Haven't seen you in the hills for a while. We must be riding on different days!
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Old 09-18-2013, 03:45 AM   #20
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That bike looks sweet! Like a "dirt bike on steroids"!

Thanks for the replies all. Really enjoying the discussion. How are you doing Mr. Klaviator? Haven't seen you in the hills for a while. We must be riding on different days!
I moved to Huntsville. I haven't been back to N GA in the last few months. I'll try to make it back on an occasional weekend trip but I've been busy lately. I've been riding in Alabama and just got back from riding the Ozarks.
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:24 AM   #21
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Do what I did: Get a 2008+ KLR (2nd Gen), and put it on a diet.

with some simple mods, I have no problem lifting the front end in second gear, and I have comfort and power for the highway - 100km/h at 4400rpm, 130km/h at 5000rpm - how fast do you really want to slab on a dirtbike anyway?





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Old 09-18-2013, 09:23 PM   #22
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To the OP - I'd keep both if I could do it.

I came from the same thing... a pure street bike, bought a DR650, sold the street bike to make room ... and I was on a tighter budget.

But I'm in a strange place (south east Florida) where the DR650's charm isn't always available. It's certainly better for shorter distance commuting than I used to do, but there are times I miss the street bike.

I think it's gonna wholly depend on where you live, and the routes and roads/trails you have available to you. There are parts of the country where the DR650 would be 90% of all the bike you'd ever need, and then places like here where it's more like 25% to 30%.
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:48 PM   #23
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Because of some other debts I've decided to sell my Honda ST1300. I just don't ride it like it is intended and I don't ride it to work anymore, so it's only had about 4000 miles put on it this year. Previous years were 3 times that. I just don't take long trips like that and I've never been comfortable riding the pig on gravel roads. I can pick her up from a drop but at 750# it ain't easy.
Enter old thumper! I bought an old '94 Honda XR650L Labor Day weekend. I'm enjoying the shit out of this bike. Once I got it running. I trailered it down to Galton, PA last week for a DS ride with some buddies. I wasn't up to riding it 340 miles one way and I wasn't sure I could trust it. It was a good choice. I was beat after a 200 mile day Saturday! Locally I'm having a blast on this old bike. I got on some logging roads yesterday that were a real kick. Shit ass grin on my face as I went where most other bikes can't. Or even 4x4 trucks. I've dropped it twice already in the crap and at 350-ish #'s, I've been able to pick her up easy and almost zero damage. I wish I could have been able to afford a little nicer one but WTF, it's a dirt bike! Who cares what it looks like?
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:56 PM   #24
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I would agree with others here. I have a KLR, and when it comes to strictly road riding, I want something with a bit more oomph, and better breaks. A Wee Strom, Versys, or even a Honda NC700 would be much better then a DR650 for what you want, unless you build it like this one

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Old 09-20-2013, 07:17 AM   #25
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I would agree with others here. I have a KLR, and when it comes to strictly road riding, I want something with a bit more oomph, and better breaks. A Wee Strom, Versys, or even a Honda NC700 would be much better then a DR650 for what you want, unless you build it like this one

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Have you got all the oomph out of your KLR? Have you done the MC mod? I did that and it was like a different bike. I also have the KLX needle, and an aftermarket exhaust. Stainless braided brake lines are like night & day in respect to brake performance.
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Have you got all the oomph out of your KLR? Have you done the MC mod? I did that and it was like a different bike. I also have the KLX needle, and an aftermarket exhaust. Stainless braided brake lines are like night & day in respect to brake performance.
While I don't know how much 'oomph' can be brought out of a KLR, I will admit that the 2008 (so newer model) that I rode seemed much more the stable street bike alternative compared to my DR650. I bought the DR650 for weight and such, but I'm pretty sure a KLR650, 2009 or newer, would have made me just as happy up to this point.

As for believeability... Stainless brake lines, IMHO, reduce the flex, and make the brake activate the brakes harder, earlier, but they don't do anything in as far as brake performance on any bike I've tried them on. Feel - yes; performance - no. Now if part of a brake system's falures were modulation, then perhaps the reduced flxed of braided lines would aid the rider.
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I would agree with others here. I have a KLR, and when it comes to strictly road riding, I want something with a bit more oomph, and better breaks. A Wee Strom, Versys, or even a Honda NC700 would be much better then a DR650 for what you want, unless you build it like this one

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I see a fly-n-ride in the OP's future. That bike would fit the bill. Still not quite going to keep up with sport bikes in the straightaways, but would be hard to catch in the twisties. It would make for fun banter/debates with the buddies.
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:59 AM   #28
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If you already have a proper dirt bike, get a twin for the road and some light off-road. A single just ain't gonna match a twin on the road, no way. Even more so, if your buddies ride powerful road bikes, and you fancy to somehow keep up with them.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:07 PM   #29
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Thanks for the replies all. I'm mostly interested in how it will do on the street especially since I often ride with guys who have big street bikes. For the dirt, I just want dirt road capability with this bike. I have my tagged EXC 400 for the serious dirt riding.
OK then, you've pretty well answered your own question.

So, might I suggest you look at tires for your Bandit of the more correct type for adv riding? If all you want is dirt road capability, you can do that with tires alone.

If you really wanted to, you could fabricate a skid plate, and get a different front fender.
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:33 AM   #30
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Your Bandit is every bit as capable as your buddies' CB750, Concourse, and BMWs. As mentioned, just get a set of more aggressive tires if you plan on doing gravel and dirt.
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